[Qgis-psc] Grants 2020 preparation for voting
Matthias Kuhn
matthias at opengis.ch
Mon Jul 6 08:38:23 PDT 2020
Hi Andreas
Thanks for taking this into the discussion.
Rest assured that no offense has been taken. I highly value the
democratic process and it's decisions!
It's an offer we decided to make to move a topic forward that in our
opinion would benefit the quality of QGIS and its ecosystem.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Matthias
On 7/6/20 5:29 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Tomorrow evening is a PSC meeting. I think we should discuss at the
> meeting what to do with the two proposals that couldn't make it.
>
> I wouldn't interpret the grant proposal voting as being "against" your
> proposal. With these relatively few voting members one vote plus or
> minus makes a difference and sometimes it is only a tiny bit of luck
> or not. This has nothing to do with the quality of the proposal.
>
> I think neither of the proposals is "sexy" to the end users. And the
> rules of the grant process made sure that "sexy" projects (new
> features and such) were not eligible for the grant process. We should
> also not blame the voting members for the outcome - it is just a
> matter of fact that one or two of the proposals couldn't make it. I
> wish we had more funds than we had grant proposals ...
>
> It is also clear that certain proposals that only target a "minority"
> of QGIS users (such as MacOS, Linux users or QGIS server users) often
> have a tough time getting enough votes.
>
> Greetings,
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 16:15, Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch
> <mailto:matthias at opengis.ch>> wrote:
>
> Hi Anita, all
>
> Congratulations to all the winning proposals, we have some very
> good projects confirmed. Also thanks a lot for running the grant
> proposal process perfectly smooth.
>
> Also thanks to all the voting members for taking the time to read
> up on the proposals and participate in the democratic process.
>
>
> We have noticed that the settings registry was again not
> prioritized. We are unsure, what exactly the reason was. The other
> proposals were very high quality indeed. Maybe it was not deemed
> important enough, maybe the conclusion was that it would be easy
> to find external sponsors or maybe it was not presented or titled
> "sexy" enough.
>
>
> Whatever it may have been, we are convinced that it would be very
> good for the QGIS codebase, plugin ecosystem and users. It will
>
> - reduce the risk for wrong usage of settings (recent bug e.g. [1])
>
> - make it easier for plugin developers to properly use settings
>
> - add semantics to settings, it opens up the way to generate a UI
> for settings (the same way it's already possible to generate UIs
> for processing parameters)
>
>
> To provide this leap forward with respect to settings management,
> OPENGIS.ch would like to jump in and sponsor the missing 2.4K € to
> implement this proposal.
>
>
> If you would like to follow up on this, please let me know.
>
> Thank you very much
>
> Matthias
>
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/37520/files#diff-45bc9c8c414931bca4589d3b221f119dL543
>
>
> On 7/5/20 4:57 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>> The voting period is now over. I've closed the form and counted
>> the votes. You find the preliminary results at:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10MAeENptW-gi8spkmR_jn0Y-_9iYakR7wtV5XdSZZ1o/edit?usp=sharing
>> As it stands now, the 8 top-ranked proposals can be funded within
>> the 40k grant budget.
>> Could I ask you to please cross-check the results before we
>> announce them.
>> Regards,
>> Anita
>> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 20. Juni 2020 um 16:18 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Anita Graser" <anitagraser at gmx.at>
>> <mailto:anitagraser at gmx.at>
>>
>> The call for voting has been sent out now. The deadline is on
>> Sunday, July 5th 2020.
>>
>> Please get in touch if you are a voting member and haven't
>> received the invitation.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anita
>>
>> On 19.06.2020 18:01, Marco Bernasocchi wrote:
>>
>> Thanks a lot Denis and Anita for the great work!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Marco
>>
>> On 19.06.20 16:34, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree - thanks a lot for your work, Denis!
>>
>> It helps to get a good summary and present it a bit better.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2020-06-19 16:24, Anita Graser wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Denis!
>>
>> I think this is an excellent overview of the proposals.
>>
>> My goal is to send the call for voting out tomorrow
>> evening if there are no arguments against it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anita
>>
>> On 19.06.2020 13:48, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
>>
>> Hi Anita,
>> Here is a first draft of a one page summary of
>> the grants to be voted on.
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aiolvIpEGhBZ-iLhZl7cbUP1gPQx1-W83ecijpzNi4o/edit?usp=sharing
>> It's quite tricky to report the discussion
>> without looking too negative. I hope this is
>> neutral enough. I am totally open to suggestions,
>> obviously.
>> Let me know what you think,
>> Denis
>> Le lun. 15 juin 2020 à 19:50, Anita Graser
>> <anitagraser at gmx.at <mailto:anitagraser at gmx.at>>
>> a écrit :
>>
>> Thank you Denis!
>>
>> We need the summaries as soon as possible.
>> According to our timeline, we wanted to
>> publish the voting results at the end of June
>> (after a two week voting period):
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNmSJxztrHrqLfillDH8v1zWaMzxFUyYSPT3sut55eQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> If you can manage to write the summaries by
>> Sunday 21st, we can start the voting and have
>> the results ready around July 6th.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anita
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, 19:14 Denis Rouzaud,
>> <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com
>> <mailto:denis.rouzaud at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I can give a hand for this. I can
>> compile the summaries and comments.
>> When is it due?
>> Denis
>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, 19:04 Anita
>> Graser, <anitagraser at gmx.at
>> <mailto:anitagraser at gmx.at>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do we have any volunteer for
>> compiling the proposal and discussion
>> summaries?
>>
>> If nobody is available to take
>> care of this step - we have to
>> decide if
>> we feel comfortable to go ahead
>> with the voting without the
>> summaries.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anita
>>
>>
>> On 13.06.2020 21:06, Anita Graser
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Since the QEP discussion period
>> is over now, we need to take the next
>> > steps:
>> >
>> > According to our new process
>> (discussed in
>> >
>> https://github.com/qgis/PSC/issues/31),
>> proposal and discussion
>> > summaries should be prepared
>> that can be sent out to voters.
>> >
>> > @Paolo are you still available
>> to take care of this?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Anita
>> >
>> >
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