[Qgis-psc] Releasing LT version monthly in the first 6 months after the release

Matthias Kuhn matthias at opengis.ch
Fri Mar 24 00:48:05 PDT 2023


Re-adding the unintentionally removed conversation to the list.
Thanks Andreas!

On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 08:36 Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:

> Hi Matthias,
>
> My responses are below.
>
> On 2023-03-23 23:42, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree with you that a monthly release makes sense, especially in the
> beginning, but I wonder if it makes sense to change that towards the end or
> if we can just stick to the once patch release per month that we currently
> have. Even at this stage, I think this can help.
>
>
>
> That would be fine with me as well: keep the monthly releases until the
> end of the life time of an LT version. That would probably make things
> easier for Jürgen.
>
>
>
>
> As for releasing earlier for testing, I like the idea a lot but would not
> limit it to specific people but spread it as much as possible, labeled as
> "release candidate", 2-4 weeks before the final release to leave room for
> reaction and possibly a second rc.
>
>
>
> Ok, yes. That is also ok for me. And I think we already do that. The
> first version 3.0 has the label "release candidate" written on the Splash
> screen. So that is already covered. We just have to check websites and
> other communication if we handle the "release candidate" wording
> consistently.
>
> This would then also be the response to  Alex/Giovanni: they are not the
> only testers. All of the adventurous people who use the 3.xx.0 release are
> testing along with them. That would be ok with me. One has to expect issues
> with a .0 release. And the more people test, the more likely, issues are
> discovered.
>
> Thanks,
> Andreas
>
>
>
>
> Bests
> Matthias
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 19:10 Andreas Neumann via QGIS-PSC <
> qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
> Hi PSC and devs,
>
> It seems like there is consensus that LT can/should be released more
> often. At least the testers Giovanni and Alex have nothing against
> releasing LT more often - and Jürgen has it automated. Nyall and myself
> (and probably others) are both for releasing more often - esp. in the light
> of the combination with the quarantine rule and one month delay that comes
> with the quarantine rule.
>
> So Jürgen: May I please kindly ask you to adjust the road map (
> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/development/roadmap.html#release-schedule
> ) again - sorry about the back on forth in this respect.
>
> This would mean:
>
> 3.28.5: 2023-03-31
> 3.28.6: 2023-04-28
> 3.28.7: 2023-05-26
> 3.28.8: 2023-06-23 --> switch to 4 month cycle
> 3.28.9: 2023-10-27 (last 3.28.x release)
>
> This basically means that only the last quarter of the life span of an LT
> release would be released in the "thinned out" mode and the releases before
> still in the monthly cycle. In the last quarter of the life span of an LT
> version there are typically fewer backports, because hopefully the more
> severe issues are fixed before and it also gets more and more difficult to
> backport for devs.
>
> Enterprise and gov users typically install after a version becomes LT (4
> months after the initial release) - then they test and report issues. This
> means that in the middle of the life span of an LT version there is still a
> lot of feedback and fixes coming in - hence we need the monthly releases in
> this time period.
>
> Thank you for your consideration - Jürgen!
>
> Andreas
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