[Qgis-tr] Qgis-tr Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13

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Mon Oct 27 12:36:29 PDT 2014


Is there is relation between unfinished and unreviewed words.


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Today's Topics:

   1. Niche question (Kari Salovaara)
   2. Spelling mistake (Stott, James)
   3. Re: Niche question (Maris Nartiss)
   4. Re: Niche question (Richard Duivenvoorde)
   5. Re: Spelling mistake (Werner Macho)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:05:09 +0200
From: Kari Salovaara <kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi>
To: QGIS Translation Discussions <qgis-tr at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: [Qgis-tr] Niche question
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Hi,

in Transifex strings have basicly two modes, not translated and
translated and you'll get their amount in numbers respectively.
in QGIS (desktop) when you look Help -> About -> Translators you'll see
all languages and there's a bar which visualizes the amount how much is
translated. But that same bar shows a tooltip where You find three
different modes (!) finished, unfinished and untranslated. (Of course
the numbers don't match with Transifex, only the total is correct. But
this is not relevant now)

How this, two and three, is explained ? And why these cannot match so
that a simple fellow like me could understand this ? What is unfinished?

All the best,
Kari

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Kari Salovaara
Hanko, Finland

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:39:37 +0000
From: "Stott, James" <fmrojst at fylkesmannen.no>
To: "qgis-tr at lists.osgeo.org" <qgis-tr at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: [Qgis-tr] Spelling mistake
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Found a spelling mistake.

It's in Context: context_help
Occurrence ../src/core/qgscontexthelp_texts.cpp:401

It's in the long string for Delimited text file layer. There is an instance where it says linewhich. It is missing a space.

James
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:13:14 +0200
From: Maris Nartiss <maris.gis at gmail.com>
To: kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi,         QGIS Translation Discussions
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-tr] Niche question
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Kari,
I believe "unfinished" are the same as gettext's "fuzzy". A string is
marked fuzzy, if it has been translated but there have been some
changes in the source code of program. Most of the time it is just a
matter of accepting translation, still sometimes whole string needs to
be translated a new. Fuzzies can be generated also by "fuzzy matching"
while updating translation template file. As from the total translated
point of view - fuzzy and untranslated are the same - not displayed in
the application.

I can not comment on Transifex, as I don't use it. I am just familiar
with KDE SC translation.

M?ris.


2014-10-27 1:05 GMT+02:00 Kari Salovaara <kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi>:
> Hi,
>
> in Transifex strings have basicly two modes, not translated and translated
> and you'll get their amount in numbers respectively.
> in QGIS (desktop) when you look Help -> About -> Translators you'll see all
> languages and there's a bar which visualizes the amount how much is
> translated. But that same bar shows a tooltip where You find three different
> modes (!) finished, unfinished and untranslated. (Of course the numbers
> don't match with Transifex, only the total is correct. But this is not
> relevant now)
>
> How this, two and three, is explained ? And why these cannot match so that a
> simple fellow like me could understand this ? What is unfinished?
>
> All the best,
> Kari
>
> --
> Kari Salovaara
> Hanko, Finland
>
> "Volunteers do not necessarily have the time; they just have the heart."
>  ~ Elizabeth Andrew
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:44:27 +0100
From: Richard Duivenvoorde <richard at duif.net>
To: qgis-tr at lists.osgeo.org, kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi
Subject: Re: [Qgis-tr] Niche question
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On 27-10-14 00:05, Kari Salovaara wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in Transifex strings have basicly two modes, not translated and
> translated and you'll get their amount in numbers respectively.
> in QGIS (desktop) when you look Help -> About -> Translators you'll see
> all languages and there's a bar which visualizes the amount how much is
> translated. But that same bar shows a tooltip where You find three
> different modes (!) finished, unfinished and untranslated. (Of course
> the numbers don't match with Transifex, only the total is correct. But
> this is not relevant now)
>
> How this, two and three, is explained ? And why these cannot match so
> that a simple fellow like me could understand this ? What is unfinished?

Hi Kari,

before transifex we used Qt-Linguist for translation, but still QGIS
uses all Qt tools to get translations into the application.

The user format: 'ts file' is actually an xml file which for every
string has these term's (unfinished etc) in it (have a look into one of
the i18m/qgis_xx.ts files).

The html for the bars is generated by the script tsstat.pl:

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/scripts/tsstat.pl#L124

the finished/unfinished counts are actually generated by the Qt command
'lrelease' which you can also run by hand:

richard at kwik/tmp$ lrelease qgis_es.ts
Updating 'qgis_es.qm'...
    Generated 10756 translation(s) (10489 finished and 267 unfinished)
    Ignored 914 untranslated source text(s)

And those counts actually is what you seen in the bar's.

As Maris already stated, I think unfinished is a string which is already
translated, but the source string is missing a punctuation or so?

HTH,

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:40:27 +0100
From: Werner Macho <werner.macho at gmail.com>
To: QGIS Translation Discussions <qgis-tr at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-tr] Spelling mistake
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Hi James!

Fixed in last commit!
Thanks a lot!

regards
Werner

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Stott, James <fmrojst at fylkesmannen.no> wrote:
> Found a spelling mistake.
>
>
>
> It?s in Context: context_help
>
> Occurrence ../src/core/qgscontexthelp_texts.cpp:401
>
>
>
> It?s in the long string for Delimited text file layer. There is an instance
> where it says linewhich. It is missing a space.
>
>
>
> James
>
>
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