[Qgis-user] QGIS instalation and uninstallation issues

[Bernd Vogelgesang]

+1 for dumping the standalone installer and using (a simplyfied) advanced  
OSGEO4W-setup only, possibly offering more older versions for  
compatibility reasons.
Noob Windows user tend to use the standalone installer and then run into  
path issues with older versions (just experienced that last week on a  
colleagues machine) which they are simply unable to resolve. Quote from my  
colleague: "Wouldn't it be better to resume with that project in ArcGIS? I  
fear that things will break and all work is lost"
Things don't work -> Open Source software is unreliable.

Linux users are much more used to hack around in the system (very steep  
learning curve, and actually most people would like to work on their  
machines and not hack them).
Even me as a "seasoned" Linux USER I am unable at the moment to get GRASS  
running in the toolbox for 2.8 on Ubuntu, and installation instructions  
are for some reason so much condensed into a few lines in the  
documentation, with no troubleshooting section at all, that I can  
understand the Windows users despair.

About the "selfishness" of developers: Completely accepted. But maybe  
there is some way to break this a bit by bribing. There must be a way to  
get more money into "user driven" projects by crowd funding, which would  
also mean that someone also has to be paid to coordinate that.

Cheers
Bernd




Am 17.07.2015, 10:17 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>:

>
> The standalone is the same package as the osgeo4w one. Same layout same  
> software.
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 6:15 pm Richard McDonnell <richard.mcdonnell at opw.ie>  
> wrote:
>>
>>       
>>    +1 to the idea of dumping the standalone, I don't think it ads any
>>    functionality, only confusion!!
>>
>>
>>    
>>   On 16/07/2015 19:46, Anita Graser
>>      wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:48 PM,
>>>            Werner Macho <werner.macho at gmail.com>
>>>            wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>              
>>>>              http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Open-Source-Rawkonverter-Darktabl
>>>>
>>>> e-Windows-Version-scheitert-an-mangelnder-Initiative-2750592.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>              
>>>>              I fully agree with them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            
>>>            
>>>              ​+1
>>>            
>>>           ​​
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>              ​             people using windows should
>>>>
>>>>              actually try make the update on windows "smoother" (isnt
>>>>              it already
>>>>
>>>>              nice with OSGEO4W?)
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            
>>>            
>>>              ​I run QGIS on
>>>                Win7+8 wit OSGeo4W and on Ubuntu. In my opinion, the
>>>                Windows solution is almost easier to handle that the
>>>                repos on Ubuntu. Thanks Jürgen and whoever else is
>>>                involved!
>>>            
>>>            
>>>              
>>>                        
>>>            
>>>              I might even go
>>>                as far as say that it might be worth considering dumping
>>>                the stand-alone installer if it causes more issues than
>>>                it's worth.
>>>            
>>>            
>>>              
>>>                        
>>>            
>>>              Best wishes,
>>>            
>>>            
>>>              Anita
>>>            
>>>            
>>>              
>>>                        
>>>            
>>>              ​
>>>               
>>>
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