[Qgis-user] QGIS instalation and uninstallation issues

[Nathan Woodrow]

Hey,

How about we solve the issues in the software?  This is a bug if you can't
get it to work right. Dropping the standalone doesn't solve this issue and
the standalone is used by people that need to do offline installs as it
contains a all in one package ready to go. QGIS shares settings over
versions that includes things like path to GRASS and SAGA.  I suspect this
is the cause of the issue, if you have 32bit and 64bit installed it's
pointing to the same GRASS install.

- Nathan
(QGIS Dev)

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 8:17 pm Bernd Vogelgesang <bernd.vogelgesang at gmx.de>
wrote:

> +1 for dumping the standalone installer and using (a simplyfied) advanced
> OSGEO4W-setup only, possibly offering more older versions for
> compatibility reasons.
> Noob Windows user tend to use the standalone installer and then run into
> path issues with older versions (just experienced that last week on a
> colleagues machine) which they are simply unable to resolve. Quote from my
> colleague: "Wouldn't it be better to resume with that project in ArcGIS? I
> fear that things will break and all work is lost"
> Things don't work -> Open Source software is unreliable.
>
> Linux users are much more used to hack around in the system (very steep
> learning curve, and actually most people would like to work on their
> machines and not hack them).
> Even me as a "seasoned" Linux USER I am unable at the moment to get GRASS
> running in the toolbox for 2.8 on Ubuntu, and installation instructions
> are for some reason so much condensed into a few lines in the
> documentation, with no troubleshooting section at all, that I can
> understand the Windows users despair.
>
> About the "selfishness" of developers: Completely accepted. But maybe
> there is some way to break this a bit by bribing. There must be a way to
> get more money into "user driven" projects by crowd funding, which would
> also mean that someone also has to be paid to coordinate that.
>
> Cheers
> Bernd
>
>
>
>
> Am 17.07.2015, 10:17 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>:
>
> >
> > The standalone is the same package as the osgeo4w one. Same layout same
> > software.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 6:15 pm Richard McDonnell <richard.mcdonnell at opw.ie>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>    +1 to the idea of dumping the standalone, I don't think it ads any
> >>    functionality, only confusion!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   On 16/07/2015 19:46, Anita Graser
> >>      wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:48 PM,
> >>>            Werner Macho <werner.macho at gmail.com>
> >>>            wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Open-Source-Rawkonverter-Darktabl
> >>>>
> >>>> e-Windows-Version-scheitert-an-mangelnder-Initiative-2750592.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>              I fully agree with them.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>              ​+1
> >>>
> >>>           ​​
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>              ​             people using windows should
> >>>>
> >>>>              actually try make the update on windows "smoother" (isnt
> >>>>              it already
> >>>>
> >>>>              nice with OSGEO4W?)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>              ​I run QGIS on
> >>>                Win7+8 wit OSGeo4W and on Ubuntu. In my opinion, the
> >>>                Windows solution is almost easier to handle that the
> >>>                repos on Ubuntu. Thanks Jürgen and whoever else is
> >>>                involved!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>              I might even go
> >>>                as far as say that it might be worth considering dumping
> >>>                the stand-alone installer if it causes more issues than
> >>>                it's worth.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>              Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>              Anita
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>              ​
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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