[Qgis-user] Qgis-user Digest, Vol 164, Issue 47
Ken McCall
kenrmccall at gmail.com
Thu Oct 31 09:08:32 PDT 2019
Yep! It was where I was storing the file. The Training Manual instructions
are outdated here at the bottom of p. 114.
Thanks to Jorge and Christophe!
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:03 PM <qgis-user-request at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
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> 1. Re: Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10 (Alessandro Pasotti)
> 2. Re: Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10 (Even Rouault)
> 3. Re: Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10 (Alessandro Pasotti)
> 4. Problems using QGIS 3.8 with the 3.4 Training Manual (Ken McCall)
> 5. Re: Problems using QGIS 3.8 with the 3.4 Training Manual
> (Jorge Gustavo Rocha)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:24:47 +0100
> From: Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com>
> To: ben hutcher <benhutcher123 at gmail.com>
> Cc: qgis-user <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10
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> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:54 PM ben hutcher <benhutcher123 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I've just tried the new release, and I have a crash when trying to reopen
> > a project that I've just saved. Can other people replicate that with the
> > attached project and advise how to fix that ?
> >
>
>
> I actually unzipped and inspected the project before loading it (because I
> know enough about QGIS internals to know what to trust).
>
> What's this about? A social experiment?
>
> om qgis.PyQt.QtWidgets import QMessageBox
> QMessageBox.critical(None, "Nearly busted !",
> "Do you realize you blindly accepted to run untrusted code " + \
> "that could have destroyed your computer, stolen your passwords,
> etc. ?\n" + \
> "Be reassured, nothing at all apart emitting this message has been
> done.\n" + \
> "This was just an experiment to check how users react to the
> default security warning. " + \
> "If you've read that message, please add a new line to
> http://collabedit.com/662b2")
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> > Ben
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> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:47:07 +0100
> From: Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10
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> > What's this about? A social experiment?
>
> Yes, I'm "Ben Hutcher". Too bad you destroyed it so quickly :-)
>
> I just discovered this functionnality of QGIS and this scared me. I
> believe I
> would have accepted the warning because I ignored that QGIS projects could
> contain Python code, and I presume a lot of users would. IMHO clicking on
> the
> Enable macros link should raise a dialog box with a more explicit message
> about the potential risks to double confirm.
>
> "Python macros cannot currently be run." sounds to me as "you should
> enable
> macros so things work as expected". It is not even clear that the macros
> come
> from the project itself. They could be some trusted code in QGIS itself.
> Once
> you know that functionnality is, then yes the current behaviour is
> probably
> fine. But if you don't know it, there's a high chance you could run
> untrusted
> code without realizing it.
>
> Even
>
> --
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:56:35 +0100
> From: Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com>
> To: Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>
> Cc: qgis-user <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10
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> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:47 PM Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > What's this about? A social experiment?
> >
> > Yes, I'm "Ben Hutcher". Too bad you destroyed it so quickly :-)
> >
>
> Oh, I'm sorry :)
>
> You should have told me ... you know, I'm in bug-fixing-mode and I couldn't
> resist ;)
>
>
> > I just discovered this functionnality of QGIS and this scared me. I
> > believe I
> > would have accepted the warning because I ignored that QGIS projects
> could
> > contain Python code, and I presume a lot of users would. IMHO clicking on
> > the
> > Enable macros link should raise a dialog box with a more explicit message
> > about the potential risks to double confirm.
>
>
>
> > "Python macros cannot currently be run." sounds to me as "you should
> > enable
> > macros so things work as expected". It is not even clear that the macros
> > come
> > from the project itself. They could be some trusted code in QGIS itself.
> > Once
> > you know that functionnality is, then yes the current behaviour is
> > probably
> > fine. But if you don't know it, there's a high chance you could run
> > untrusted
> > code without realizing it.
> >
> > Even
> >
> >
>
> Agreed (same for Python code embedded in forms btw).
> We should warn users about the security threats associates to run untrusted
> code (now forms have also the option to download code from the network and
> run it!).
>
> Plugins as well are of course a potential threat.
>
>
> --
> Alessandro Pasotti
> w3: www.itopen.it
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> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:15:27 -0400
> From: Ken McCall <kenrmccall at gmail.com>
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [Qgis-user] Problems using QGIS 3.8 with the 3.4 Training
> Manual
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> After years of using ARCGIS, I’m using the training manual to become
> acquainted with QGIS. I’ve downloaded 3.8, and worked through the first 100
> pages with no problem. While some of the 3.8 dialog boxes don’t look like
> the training manual I’ve been able to see the required buttons, drop downs,
> etc. But on others, I’ve hit some deadends.
>
>
>
> For example, on page 105 when it try to create a dynamic map canvas, in
> 5.2.1.5, when I go to the Item *Properties Panel*, there is no *Position
> and Size* section showing.
>
>
>
> Another example: On p. 114 in ‘Creating a New Vector Dataset’, when I try
> to save the dataset, I get an error message:
>
>
>
> ‘Layer creation failed: Failed to create file created_shapefile.shp:
> Permission denied.
>
>
>
> In both examples, I’ve tried several times, following the instructions,
> only to get the same result.
>
>
>
> So, questions:
>
>
>
> Is 3.8 that different from 3.4?
>
> Am I running into bugs in the software or the documentation? (It could be
> user error, but I’m painstakingly following the instructions.)
>
> Should I scrap 3.8 and go with 3.4 instead?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> Ken McCall
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> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 18:29:19 +0000
> From: Jorge Gustavo Rocha <jgr at geomaster.pt>
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Problems using QGIS 3.8 with the 3.4 Training
> Manual
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> Hi Ken,
>
> Where are you storing the new layer? Maybe you are not selecting a
> folder where you can write the new shapefile (that's why you get the
> permission denied error). Can you confirm the location of the new
> shapefile?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge Gustavo
>
> Às 16:15 de 30/10/19, Ken McCall escreveu:
> >
> > After years of using ARCGIS, I’m using the training manual to become
> > acquainted with QGIS. I’ve downloaded 3.8, and worked through the
> > first 100 pages with no problem. While some of the 3.8 dialog boxes
> > don’t look like the training manual I’ve been able to see the required
> > buttons, drop downs, etc. But on others, I’ve hit some deadends.
> >
> >
> >
> > For example, on page 105 when it try to create a dynamic map canvas,
> > in 5.2.1.5, when I go to the Item /Properties Panel/, there is no
> > /Position and Size/ section showing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Another example: On p. 114 in ‘Creating a New Vector Dataset’, when I
> > try to save the dataset, I get an error message:
> >
> >
> >
> > ‘Layer creation failed: Failed to create file created_shapefile.shp:
> > Permission denied.
> >
> >
> >
> > In both examples, I’ve tried several times, following the
> > instructions, only to get the same result.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, questions:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is 3.8 that different from 3.4?
> >
> > Am I running into bugs in the software or the documentation? (It could
> > be user error, but I’m painstakingly following the instructions.)
> >
> > Should I scrap 3.8 and go with 3.4 instead?
> >
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken McCall
> >
> >
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