[Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets

Chiz Harward chiz at urban-archaeology.co.uk
Tue Feb 21 01:27:52 PST 2023 

Thanks, that is incredibly useful! It is one thing to have a spec that <should> work, but another to have real life confirmation before buying -I am a sole trader so is a significant outlay (although will be game-changing and save huge amounts of time when in place). My GIS advisor has tried the project on his old tablet and works fine, so fingers crossed….

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Cathedral Archaeologist, Winchester

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From: Philip Barlow <philipb at pembrokeshirecoast.org.uk>
Sent: 21 February 2023 09:23
To: Chiz Harward <chiz at urban-archaeology.co.uk>; Stefan Giese (WhereGroup) <stefan.giese at wheregroup.com>; Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com>
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Subject: RE: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets

Oops! Sorry, missed that part.

Also have some experience with surface tabs and our planners.  Planners being planners like to have at least 100 layers visible at once, I’m not sure why this is? Perhaps its like a magic eye picture or something and if they stare long enough the answers to the mysteries of the universe will pop out of the canvas at them? Anyway! Under a heavy load of vector data (>20,000 features. Theres about that on our planning master layer alone) it worked just fine, cannot speak for rasters though although some overviews/pyramids would help there.  Our surface tabs are a few years old now, at least 3 I’d say. I’ll try and find out the specs.

Phik


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Thanks Phil, that’s really useful, unfortunately QField doesn’t work for what I need it to do, so have to use Windows based, looking into Surface Pro options

Chiz Harward BA MCIfA he/him
Senior Archaeologist, Urban Archaeology
Cathedral Archaeologist, Winchester

I work flexibly - so whilst it suits me to email now, I do not expect a response or action outside of your own working hours

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Urban Archaeology
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Stroud,
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GL5 1LQ
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Urban Archaeology is a trading name of Chiz Harward BA MCIfA

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From: Philip Barlow <philipb at pembrokeshirecoast.org.uk<mailto:philipb at pembrokeshirecoast.org.uk>>
Sent: 21 February 2023 08:45
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Subject: RE: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets

Hi all,

Device wise, we bought a load Samsun Galaxy Tab Active 3s (link below) for archaeology field work.

Galaxy Tab Active 3 Tablet | View Specs | Samsung Business UK<https://www.samsung.com/uk/business/tablets/galaxy-tab-active/galaxy-tab-active3-t575-sm-t575nzkaeea/?cid=CY~UK_CH~PPC_PB~Google_1881025376_CN~FF~Eval:Product_Q122SMB_Tab+Active3_KS~PR_BS~BS_PR~B2B_SB~TAB+ACTIVE3_OB~TRAFFIC_FS~LO_AI~N_MT~EXA_CA~KEW&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=CjwKCAjwlqOXBhBqEiwA-hhitCEwzpKJrYy8hzSf0XYK_U-cgCMASXLjf8JpU4P8E2ouS7r81QoEAhoCWHwQAvD_BwE>

My colleague, our archaeologist, has one that he takes out with him all the time that has all the reference datasets he needs (monuments, HER etc.) in QField.  We’ve also used these tablets with volunteers for a LiDAR project. They happily dealt with a fairly hefty project, again in QField, with various visualisations of the data on and they also had to cope with some weather whilst we were out and about too.    We’ve been very happy with them.  They come with a ruggedised case and you can replace the batteries on them! (unheard of these days).

Hope that’s helpful

Phil




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in addition what Phil wrotes: Mergin Maps is also available for windows: https://github.com/MerginMaps/input/releases/tag/2.0.1

Best regards

Stefan
Am 20.02.2023 um 09:23 schrieb Phil Wyatt via QGIS-User:
Hi folks,

I would encourage you to also check out Mergin Maps that will work on IOS or Android devices. Maybe also spell out why Windows is required or where the apps fail. The developers may be able to assist in solving issues. Plenty more “rugged” devices available in Android or with rugged cases in IOS.

I have used Panasonic tough books in the past but tablets or even phones are just so much more useful these days (depending on your use case)

Cheers - Phil,
On the road with his iPad

On 20 Feb 2023, at 6:17 pm, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

Thanks all, weight is indeed an issue, and given I’ll be up a scaffold/down trenches, I’ll probably have a harness/strap of some sort to avoid dropping it... My GIS boffin has done some tests and test project is running fine on his 4GB RAM 56 GB tablet, so hoping can use a cheaper machine and with SSD
thanks

Chiz Harward BA MCIfA he/him
Senior Archaeologist, Urban Archaeology
Cathedral Archaeologist, Winchester

I work flexibly - so whilst it suits me to email now, I do not expect a response or action outside of your own working hours

http://urban-archaeology.blogspot.com<http://urban-archaeology.blogspot.com/>
https://www.facebook.com/urb.arch/
http://gloscross-slabs.blogspot.co.uk/

Urban Archaeology
2 Slad View,
Gaineys Well,
Stroud,
Gloucestershire
GL5 1LQ
07881 486837
chiz at urban-archaeology.co.uk<mailto:chiz at urban-archaeology.co.uk>

Urban Archaeology is a trading name of Chiz Harward BA MCIfA

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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets

Hi,

We bought some years ago the Dell Rugged Extreme tablet and I want to say : test before buy !

Even if QGIS works flawlessly with big projects, the Windows "tablet" environment is just a pain, especially the virtual keyboards (plural form as Microsoft has been unable to give something polished so we're using two)

Add to this that this real computer needs a lot of power, batteries, so is so heavy that that you need a necklace to handle it all day.

But the worst is the "Rugged" definition. Could you imagine that there's fans, that they are accessible behind plastic to the most common and dangerous thing for fan on earth : dust. Look on the fourth picture to see the fan grid.

https://www.dell.com/fr-fr/shop/ordinateurs-portables/latitude-7220-rugged-extreme/spd/latitude-12-7220-tablet/xctol7220emea

You see the point. Good luck and please share your finds.

J. Benoist

Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 14:50, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-User <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>> a écrit :
I'm (just playing) with this tablet: ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen3
It comes with Windows, but I run Debian Testing on it and I really like it, even the use of the pen.
Not sure about ruggedized cases for it though.

I'm afraid you will end up with the normal ruggedized Windows tablets which are available (and pretty expensive)?

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

On 2/17/23 14:43, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for suggestions/spec for a Windows* tablet** that can run QGIS during data collection and recording on archaeological sites (dusty, sometimes damp). The work is recording simple attributes and short text comments onto shapefiles of e.g. wall elevations (up to 20,000 polygons, although these could be split up). There will be geo-tif orthophotos of the wall elevations/plans as well, although these could be lo-res. All processing and analysis will be done in office on a desktop, tablet is just for recording.
>
> Need a tablet that can work rapidly without beachballing between commands or when pan across mapping. SSD, 8GB RAM enough? Any advice appreciated,
>
> *QField is not suitable for this project
>
> **must be a tablet that can fit in a ruggedised case, laptops are no good for the work
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Chiz
>
>
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