[Southeast-US] Southeast-US Digest, Vol 2, Issue 4

Phillip Davis goliadranger at gmail.com
Tue May 12 12:52:20 PDT 2015


The fact they've drug a guy named Jack into the fray is priceless.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:02 PM, <southeast-us-request at lists.osgeo.org>
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>    1. [OSGeo-Discuss] Feedback from the Open Letter about       LiDAR
>       standards (Randal Hale)
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> Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 08:43:11 -0400
> From: Randal Hale <rjhale at northrivergeographic.com>
> To: southeast-us at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [Southeast-US] [OSGeo-Discuss] Feedback from the Open Letter
>         about   LiDAR standards
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> Excuse the overlap if any of you are in the OSGEO main listserve,
>
> For those of you who deal with lidar this has (after sitting on the
> backburner for about a year) finally become a hot topic amongst the Geo
> Organizations. The whole thing is pretty fascinating.
>
>   * Guy develops a open format that is more of less the standard for Lidar.
>   * Software company forks open format making it closed and playing off
>     the name for intentional/unintentional confusion
>   * Guy screams foul but no one cares.
>   * Finally more organizations get involved and there are many niceties
>     being passed around with attempts to now rectify the situation.
>
> It's worth a follow if you haven't been.
>
> Randy
>
> On 05/10/2015 12:56 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
> > Colleagues,
> >
> > As many of you are aware in April 2015, i send out an email informing
> colleagues in Academia, Government and Industry who have interest in
> maintaining Open Standards in LiDAR to respond to the developments [1] and
> provide inputs.
> >
> > Thank you for all of you who responded and supported our Open Letter [2]
> and as the next step of the process on 6th May 2015, i have emailed
> responsible contacts in the three organisations ASPRS (Stewart Walker),
> Esri (Jack Dangermond) ,  OGC (Mark Reichardt)  inviting all of them to
> respond and participate constructively for helping find a solution for this.
> >
> > Dr. A. Stewart Walker (ASPRS) has  confirmed that he has received the
> e-mail and that ASPRS will discuss this  and will  respond formally in due
> course. They were holding their annual conference, IGTF 2015, in Tampa,
> Florida, last week so i understand all key ASPRS people were there face to
> face to discuss this in detail and find a best way forward. I also
> understand that OGC also will be responding formally to our letter this
> week.
> >
> > Jack Dangermond (Esri) has emailed me assuring thier commitment for
> interoperability and open standards and to support OGC to organize an open
> process leading to an open standard for storing LiDAR data. I have replied
> thanking Jack for responding positively and  inviting thier participation
> for this. I also recieved email from Esri staff (Keith Ryden) that i
> replied suggesting that from now he be in direct contact with  Martin
> Isenburg (author of LASzip and LAStools) and Scott Simmons (OGC) to get
> thier feedbacks and inputs in  this discussions so that everyone can work
> together in the common objective of Open Standards in our discipline for
> the benifit of the wider geo community.
> >
> > I thank Carl Reed for this sharing his years of experience ( i was not
> even born when he started his career!)  and wisdom on collaboration and
> building consensus and i take inspiration from his words. We all have to be
> patient, listen to all different viewpoints/perspectives and work together,
> step by step and always keep doors of communication  open so we can bring
> everyone together for building consensus.
> >
> > We have achieved two important objectives so far:
> >
> > 1. We were able to educate the wider geo community on this issue and the
> importance of Open Standards and get strong support from all cross
> sections. It is a strong message to all that we are watching closely all
> developments and will take action as and when needed.
> >
> > 2. All key stakeholders are now committed to work together to find a
> solution for this.
> >
> > It is important that discussions with all stakeholders start with open
> mind (OGC, OSGeo, ASPRS, Esri, other properitory GIS vendors, government
> organisations, LiDAR companies/users etc..) and i request that everyone put
> forward all the options for discussions and ideas for consensus. If you or
> your organisation wishes to contribute ideas/viewpoints for this discussion
> (even if you are not able to participate in the Boulder meeting, your views
> will help in finding the best solution) please email Scott Simmons
> (Executive Director, Standards, E-mail - ssimmons at opengeospatial.org )
> your ideas/proposals on this before 25th May 2015, so that all
> proposals/ideas can be looked into and discussed  at the OGC Point Cloud
> ad-hoc meeting planned at next TC meetings in Boulder, USA (June 1st, 2015).
> >
> >
> > I now leave this in the safe hands of our OGC colleagues to guide the
> process forward and i request  everyone to work together step by step for
> this. It is important to be patient , listen to all viewpoints and slowly
> build consensus. I hope all stakeholders will work together in the common
> objective of Open Standards in LiDAR for the benifit of the wider geo
> community.
> >
> > I thank all colleagues in GeoforAll, OSGeo, OGC, ASPRS, ISPRS, ICA and
> wider geocommunity  esp. Martin Isenburg, Cameron Shorter, Patrick Hogan
> whose efforts made this possible.I once again thank the wider geospatial
> community for thier attention and support on this important matter.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Suchith
> >
> > [1] http://www.osgeo.org/node/1518
> > [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter
> > [3] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-May/012814.html
> >
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