[Ubuntu] Fwd: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy

Micha Silver micha at arava.co.il
Fri Sep 16 06:45:58 PDT 2016


------ Original Message ------ Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] Fwd: [GRASS-dev] 
ubuntu gis policy Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:08:33 -0400 To: Ubuntu From: 
Randal Hale
> I'm one of the guys who was commenting on the confusion. Someone 
> commented that the naming is in keeping with Ubuntu policy. Which 
> probably for the Sys Admin crowd is perfect. We've got a weird blend 
> of Users who want software BUT (and I didn't up until this last 
> thread) understand the reasoning behind the naming. It is confusing. I 
> don't know if something on the PPA explaining it is warranted OR a 
> name change OR something on the package websites.
>
I'd suggest this: (clearest to me, and does not break the known Debian 
chain)

"Experimental" (=Debian testing) --> "Current" (=Debian unstable) --> 
"Legacy" (=Debian stable)

> Anyway - Yes - 500 Cheers for Angelos and everyone else involved in 
> keeping this alive.
>
> Randy
>
> On 09/16/2016 08:37 AM, Martin Landa wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I took liberty to forward opinion about PPA naming from GRASS ML.  The
>> name for unstable PPA is simply confusing (moreover with combination
>> of testing PPA used for experimental packages - especially for Debian
>> users). Could be that I missed discussion about PPA naming, anyway
>> current names do not respect real usage of PPAs in my eyes.
>>
>> And I want to express again big thanks (especially to Angelos) for
>> making ubuntugis project alive! Martin
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Blumentrath, Stefan <Stefan.Blumentrath at nina.no>
>> Date: 2016-09-16 13:12 GMT+02:00
>> Subject: RE: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
>> To: Martin Landa <landa.martin at gmail.com>, GRASS developers list
>> <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>>
>>
>> Hei Martin,
>>
>> Do you have any chance to influence the naming of the PPAs?
>>
>> As recently also discussed on the QGIS mailinglist, packages from a
>> repository named "unstable" can get blocked by system administrators
>> (who not necessarily will take the time to try to understand what is
>> behind all applications), regardless if I as a user tell them that
>> "unstable" actually means "current release"...
>>
>> Would be nice to have a more admin-friendly name there...
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stefan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grass-dev [mailto:grass-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf
>> Of Martin Landa
>> Sent: 16. september 2016 13:03
>> To: GRASS users list <grass-user at lists.osgeo.org>; GRASS developers
>> list <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Subject: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> recently ubuntugis maintainers changed their policy. This means that
>> currently is used this workflow:
>>
>> OSGeoLive nightly --> UbuntuGIS Testing --> UbuntuGIS Unstable -->
>> UbuntuGIS Stable
>>
>> What does it means for GRASS?
>>
>> 1) experimental packages (like Release Candidates) are uploaded to
>> Testing PPA [1]
>> 2) final version packages are uploaded to Testing and Unstable [2]
>> 3) Stable PPA can contain older version [3]
>>
>> For user who want to help with testing experimental packages: please
>> use Testing PPA otherwise use Unstable (if you prefer up-to-date
>> version) or Stable PPA (you prefer stability - slightly older versions).
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing
>> [2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable
>> [3] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>>
>> -- 
>> Martin Landa
>> http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa
>> http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa
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>>
>

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