[OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?

Wed Aug 25 08:42:58 EDT 2010

Although that doesn’t negate the discussion around licensing

From: africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]
On Behalf Of Wolfgang Luck
Sent: 25 August 2010 01:19 PM
To: africa at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?

Hi Walter
We just had a great QGIS course and found the Open Layers plugin for QGIS
that lets you pull in Google Earth imagery directly into QGIS. Have a look
at that source code. You might want to go the same route.
Greetings Wolfgang

Wolfgang Lück
CSIR
Satellite Application Centre
Earth Observation Service Centre
Technology Manager
Tel +27 12 334 5142
Fax +27 12 334 5001
Email:wluck at csir.co.za

>>> "Walter Smit" <walter at digitalgeography.co.za> 08/25/10 11:51 AM >>>
Thanks Andrew (for stirring the slush)

My sentiments exactly...unfortunately. Thats why I asked the question in the
first place.

But what I want to do cannot be done through the Google API alone - I have
to use my webserver for some things (filtering/selections etc). But I am
then using Google to enhance the look of a part of the website... Then again
- it is free marketing for Google. Clear as mud.

I wonder what the Bing Maps (Microsoft) terms and conditions
are....especially with the new integration agreement with ESRI...Not that I
want to use their software. I think I am going to try and find another
solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]
On Behalf Of Andrew de Klerk
Sent: 25 August 2010 08:55 AM
To: 'Africa local chapter discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?

Many people read into the license agreement and believe that they can use
the google API for commercial use as long as you keep within the certain
boundaries. Tracking is a definite no and requires you pay their annual
license fee. We have just completed a site for someone who was quite happy
to adopt this principle. He is receiving income through his site, and is
utilizing google maps to display data for points of interest he is accepting
income for. I personally believe he is violating the terms of the google
maps api, but as you say "clear as mud"
My take on it all - if you receive income for what you are displaying - pay
up, if not, free to use.

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]
On Behalf Of Walter Smit
Sent: 25 August 2010 08:43 AM
To: 'Africa local chapter discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?

Hi Grant

I have read that - but I don't think it applies to my case. As I explained -
I wont be uploading my data to Google, so there is no way for them to use it
in searches/Maps/Earth. I will be displaying my data (using my own
webserver) *on top of* whatever Google has. Think of it as a two different
layers - from two different systems.

If I was going to use Google to display my data (ie upload my data to their
servers) then the sections you mentioned would apply. And as you point out -
even then you can opt out of making your content searchable.

Thanks for the comments - as a colleague of mine would say "this is as clear
as mud" :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]
On Behalf Of Grant Slater
Sent: 24 August 2010 04:54 PM
To: Africa local chapter discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?

On 24 August 2010 15:16, Jeremiah Kamau <kamaujeremiah at google.com> wrote:
>
> From what I understand:
>
<snip>
>
> In any case, Google does not get your data hence it is not search-able 
> on
Google Maps or even Google Search - no need to worry about this. Feel free
to go ahead and use the service.

No, I believe you are mistaken. Google is granted rights to use the data
including specifically search. See section 11.1 of the Terms of
Service: http://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html
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submitting, posting or displaying Your Content in the Service, you give
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license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publicly perform, publicly
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Also there is a restriction on displaying live tracking information on the
map. See section 10.9.

Regards
Grant
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