[OSGeo Africa] Another illegal GIS RfQ

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Hi all

On 2019/10/18 09:47, oripfa sigidane wrote:
> Abraham,
>
> I totally agree with you, what I do not understand is that the 
> complaint is only related to Esri related tenders. Yet there is a 
> tender at SANRAL that mentions another service provider yet the is no 
> complaint about it on this forum. So now this begs the question, is it 
> a sole attack on Esri? If so why?


I do not think this is sorely an attack on Esri but since they are 
enjoying the biggest slice of the cake they  get mentioned a lot. It's 
just the nature of life. The same principle applies to open source GIS 
desktop software when people refer to QGIS it doesn't mean it's the only 
viable option there. Because it is more popular it will be used as a 
reference point.


Even if they are not implementing a system from scratch I think it would 
still be viable to use an open-source package and some of the money that 
could have been used for licenses would be transferred to train the 
staff and other relates task i.e (documentation, update features in 
software). Projects like QGIS are where they are right now because some 
organizations and municipalities that have taken the initiative to dig 
into the open-source world irrespective of their prior engagements with 
proprietary software.

Open Source GIS always gets flake for lack of support but if you read 
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html you can 
see that there are a lot of companies offering QGIS Support.

For the database, you can read the 
http://themagiscian.com/2016/11/21/the-simple-and-free-postgis-vs-the-complex-and-expensive-oracle-spatial/. 


For a comparison of GIS, Servers read 
http://www.digital-geography.com/arcgis-server-vs-open-source-gis-solutions

For a comparison of GIS Desktop solutions 
https://gisgeography.com/qgis-arcgis-differences.

The above links showcase that Open Source is well capable of handling 
the tasks already being done by other proprietary software. I think the 
initial message was just to reiterate that these tenders are not fair 
and are exclusionary. GIS should be more about the processes rather than 
the software and if the current software follows industry standards ( 
i.e https://www.opengeospatial.org/standards) then it should not be 
difficult to migrate from one setup to the other.

Regards

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> *From:* Africa <africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Abraham 
> Parbhunath <ParbhuA at eskom.co.za>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 October 2019, 22:25
> *To:* Africa local chapter discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo Africa] Another illegal GIS RfQ
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> I'm not sure if I fully agree with you.  Yes, if they were 
> implementing a system from scratch then this is not 'kosher'.  However 
> if you already have an implemented system, have invested money and 
> training on your staff, maybe even automated some processes and you 
> just need to procure a few more licences and support, then this is 
> definitely not illegal.  There are many smaller resellers who earn a 
> living from responding to these kind of tenders.
>
> Regards
> Abraham Parbhunath
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Africa <africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf Of Gavin Fleming
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:37
> To: Africa local chapter discussions <africa at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: [OSGeo Africa] Another illegal GIS RfQ
>
>
> this time, Umungundlovu DM not even trying to hide names.
>
> Government entities are not allowed to simply renew contracts like 
> these ELAs. They have to go out to *open* tender to test the market 
> for alternative solutions and lower prices.
>
> http://www.umdm.gov.za/Official_Site/index.php/quotations/req02148-2019-supply-enviromental-systems-research-institute-esri-licensing-maintenance-renewal-from-november-2019-to-november-2020/download
>
> Now how many firms can compete for this one?
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