[Aust-NZ] Fw: Jeroen - [Fwd: Re: GeoNetwork and ANZLIC Profile work]

Tue Jul 15 22:45:41 EDT 2008

IMO:

This is from a private email thread that Jeroen has kindly agreed to 
making public.

Thanks again for your help on this Jeroen. There are some good ideas here. 

Bruce

----- Forwarded by Bruce Bannerman/DPI/VICGOV1 on 16/07/2008 10:45 AM 
-----

> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Jeroen Ticheler <>
> To: Bruce Bannerman <>
> Subject: Re: GeoNetwork and ANZLIC Profile work
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:49:01 +0200
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> This is way overdue :-( I'm in my last days of working for the FAO-UN 
> and trying to get two GeoNetwork implementations operational before 
> leaving and moving from Italy to The Netherlands. In short, problem 
> life is pretty hectic these weeks :-)
> 
> Some comments inline:
> 
> On May 22, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jeroen,
> >
> > Thanks for initiating the proposal to get support of sandbox
> > environments in GeoNetwork. I certainly appreciate your efforts to 
> > help.
> Very welcome!
> >
> > I thought that I'd contact you privately to see if you have any other
> > thoughts on how we could better work with the GeoNetwork community, 
> > but
> > at the same time coordinate and try to prioritise ANZLIC
> > requirements.
> >
> > Please note, I'm not trying to set something up that undermines the 
> > role
> > of your PSC, but hopefully will work as an ANZLIC Profile coordinating
> > and QA body. We have too much duplicated and wasted effort at the
> > moment. The pace of development is also too slow.
> >
> > Hopefully in time we will get more GeoNetwork developers and the
> > community will become more comfortable with their abilities.
> 
> We last week had a meeting in Bolsena (OSGeo hacking event Bolsena) 
> where we were with some 10 GeoNetwork developers. We did a great deal 
> of proposal writing on issues that require discussion and decisions. 
> I'l send an email to the developer list on these issues soon so others 
> can react.
> 
> Cameron made some good suggestions in the document he put forward. 
> Some of the requirements I see that need to be solved to get a more 
> solid and quick development are:
> 
> - Set up project sponsoring for GeoNetwork that can help to fund 
> specific activities that help the project in the long run. Here are 
> some ideas of what such a person could do (or tasks that currently 
> lack the required attention)
> - The project needs a developer that explicitly acts as the system 
> administrator & release manager. This is something I now do in 
> practice but that receives only a 2% attention of my time. The person 
> would be responsible for reviewing code on compliance with coding 
> standards adopted by the project, proper use of the issue tracker, 
> running tests, monitoring the continuous integration process (not in 
> place yet, but coming), test integration with GeoServer, make beta and 
> final releases and publishing/announcing the releases on the necessary 
> sites. He/she would also do the administration of sandboxes, 
> developers etc.
> - Have a person explicitly involved in the maintenance of the 
> documentation for both users and developers, both on the website and 
> in DocBook (the real manuals).
> 
> There's also a need to get existing code documented better and in a 
> number of cases add test processes to that existing code. Then we have 
> discussed migrating code to new frameworks. That kind of work requires 
> mostly rewriting and re-factoring of existing functionality. Obviously 
> that is something that most of us don't find very attractive to fund 
> since it doesn't provide short term benefits in new functionality. 
> However, it does allow us to make the code more accessible, flexible 
> and manageable. For instance, at the time the project started there 
> were no frameworks ready to use that suited our needs. So the Jeeves 
> API was developed as part of the project. By now, it makes sense to 
> start replacing Jeeves functions with other frameworks like Spring 
> MVC, Hybernate and others.
> 
> An annual workshop has been held every year, and such an event is the 
> place to discuss f2f the strategy for the coming years. Simon Pigot 
> and Kate Roberts attended that last year. For this year I am still not 
> sure how to organize it. I have to get some organization behind the 
> project to sponsor the event. Maybe FAO will do this, maybe there are 
> others.
> 
> On getting your priorities well covered in the project, I think that 
> there are no big issues. The project needs to take some steps to allow 
> for (a) plugable application profiles (b) plugable translation 
> packages (not to much of an issue for you :-) ) and (c) plugable skins/ 
> themes. All of these have been discussed and are in the process of 
> taking shape in a proposal. Some of the work is funded, some is 
> underfunded and some is not funded at all.
> 
> 
> Greetings from Rome,
> Jeroen
> >

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