[Aust-NZ] Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 114, Issue 16

Alex Leith alexgleith at gmail.com
Thu Nov 23 15:37:51 PST 2017


Hi All

I think that, if we choose Melbourne, we can work with Jamila to help
identify a venue. This sounds like a valuable service, and we should
probably take it up. I don't think we need to outsource the a conference
organiser, though.

Regards,

Alex

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 at 10:32 Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben at transient.nz> wrote:

> Cameron,
>
> by my reading, Jamila is expressing interest in hosting *FOSS4G-AU*.
> This would be the stepping stone you recommend.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ben.
>
> On 24/11/17 07:54, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> > Jamila,
> >
> > I don't believe Australia is ready to hold an international FOSS4G for
> > at least 2 years, and probably more. I believe we should not be
> > considered for an international FOSS4G until we have successfully run a
> > national (Aust/NZ) and then a regional (Asia/Pacific) FOSS4G, probably
> > starting with 50 to 100 delegates.
> >
> > And for the first few years we should be looking to run an event at as
> > low a cost as possible - ideally getting a venue for free, or close to
> > free. (I expect that will be a tough ask for you).
> >
> > I believe I say this with authority as I chaired the international
> > FOSS4G in 2009, and up to a couple of weeks ago had been on the
> > international FOSS4G committee since 2009.
> >
> > So good to hear you interest, but I think you are significantly
> > premature in reaching out.
> >
> >
> > On 23/11/17 10:44 am, Jamila Javanshir wrote:
> >> Re: FOSS4G-ANZ
> >>
> >> Dear All
> >>
> >> Greeting from Melbourne Convention Bureau! We represent a partnership
> >> between Victorian Government, City of Melbourne and private enterprise
> >> and our role is to attract national and international meetings and
> >> conferences to Melbourne.
> >>
> >> We are interested in a discussion about hosting FOSS4G-ANZ in
> >> Melbourne and what support you may require from our side should you
> >> decide to go ahead with it.
> >>
> >> We have been working on the opportunity to bring the International
> >> FOSS4G Summit to Melbourne for a few years now, so would be happy to
> >> help.
> >>
> >> With kind regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Jamila Javanshir
> >> Senior Business Development Manager, Inaugural Events
> >> d|+61 3 9002 2305 <+61%203%209002%202305>
> >> m|+61 429 553 175 <+61%20429%20553%20175>
> >> jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au
> >> www.melbournecb.com.au
> >>
> >> Head Office Melbourne
> >> Collins Square Tower Two
> >> Level 28, 727 Collins Street
> >> Melbourne Vic 3008
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>     1. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
> >>        (Cameron Shorter)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:22:03 +1100
> >> From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> >> To: aust-nz at lists.osgeo.org,
> >>     australian-qgis-user-group at googlegroups.com, OSM Australian Talk
> List
> >>     <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
> >> Message-ID: <41aee04d-b1fb-f537-1292-83dc7bd759fb at gmail.com>
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> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> For those interested in being involved in a FOSS4G-ANZ conference for
> >> 2018, I've set up a Doodle pole for a kickoff meeting next week.
> >> Please let us know when you are available.
> >>
> >> https://doodle.com/poll/s3vdegqcqrdbxq4w
> >>
> >> Meeting location: irc://freenode.net#osgeo
> >>
> >> Primary email list: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/aust-nz
> >>
> >> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
> >> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work
> >> together as a group?) -broadly scope the event, determine key details
> >> (what is it? when is it?)
> >> * How many days?
> >> * Venue type?
> >> * Target size?
> >> * Target cost?
> >> * Program?
> >> * What location? (how we select it)
> >> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times
> >> -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning
> >> process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
> >> * Potential bodies to manage finances: SSSI, OSGeo, OSM State of the
> >> Map, other
> >> * Potential champions: LINZ, GA, CSIRO,
> >> -begin spreading the word!
> >>
> >> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
> >> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement'
> >> -broadly scope the event
> >> * How many days?
> >> * Venue type?
> >> * Target size?
> >> * Target cost?
> >> * Program?
> >> * What location?
> >> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times
> >> -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning
> >> process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
> >>
> >>
> >> Re setting up FOSS4G conferences, the OSGeo Conference Committee has
> >> been building up a cookbook over the years. It is not complete, but is
> >> a starting point:
> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
> >>
> >> Cheers, Cameron
> >>
> >> On 22/11/17 9:19 pm, John Bryant wrote:
> >>> Hi all, I can see the below message on the online version of the
> >>> thread, but it didn't come through to my email. I see it was posted
> >>> early this morning, but I couldn't see it online until this evening.
> >>> In case I'm not the only one who didn't get it, I'll paste it here:
> >>>
> >>>      Apologies for the cross posting, but I figured it was worth making
> >>>      sure a few key people/groups are aware of this discussion.
> >>>
> >>>      I second Daniel's comments.
> >>>
> >>>      As an intro, I work at NIWA and have been active in the NZ FOSS
> >>>      GIS community for some years (QGIS, Postgis, Geonetwork, GMT,
> >>>      GDAL, etc...), and a semi-regular at FOSS4G when I can.
> >>>      There are a few events that this could link in with, and a few
> >>>      local SIGs & forums that may also be interested, but if
> >>>      TechnologyOne are interested in linking this to their QGIS
> >>>      workshops, I think that would be an ideal start, possibly even in
> >>>      both countries??
> >>>
> >>>      Some other NZ groups/events we could perhaps work with:
> >>>
> >>>      NZ Spatial Excellence awards
> >>>      Horizons Regional GIS forum
> >>>      NZOSA
> >>>      ALGIM
> >>>      NZ Emerging Spatial Professionals
> >>>      ...
> >>>
> >>>      My time & availability is limited, but very happy to help where I
> >>>      can to progress this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      Brent Wood
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 21 November 2017 at 22:50, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:alexgleith at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      Hi Daniel and others
> >>>
> >>>      I think that sounds like a good plan, alternating between NZ and
> >>> AU.
> >>>
> >>>      Responding to Jeff, it's fantastic to know that OSGeo is
> >>>      supportive. And my earlier comments around 'organisation' really
> >>>      are around how we can have an account and seed funding to start
> >>>      from. I think doing that through an existing organisation sounds
> >>>      way better than creating an entity.
> >>>
> >>>      Regarding John's steps, I think this is just about right.
> >>>      Somewhere in there needs to be the organising of a relationship
> >>>      with a body that can handle the money, though. Once we've got a
> >>>      bit of a prospectus, I can talk to SSSI, potentially. Are there
> >>>      other organisations may be interested?
> >>>
> >>>      And again, I agree with John, so let's try to arrange some kind of
> >>>      video meeting soon. I suggest the week after next, so 5 or 6 of
> >>> Dec.
> >>>
> >>>      Regards,
> >>>
> >>>      Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 22:18 dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz
> >>>      <mailto:dsilk at linz.govt.nz>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>          Hi all
> >>>
> >>>          For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New
> >>>          Zealand and
> >>>          attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.
> >>>
> >>>          On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>          >
> >>>          > I see the first steps, roughly, as:
> >>>          >
> >>>          > -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do
> >>>          we work
> >>>          > together as a group?)
> >>>
> >>>          ..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two
> >>>          countries?
> >>>
> >>>          One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:
> >>>          - sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ
> >>>          - alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each
> year
> >>>          - heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the
> >>>          host country
> >>>
> >>>          As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS
> >>>          user conference
> >>>          in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already
> >>>          consisted of
> >>>          2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on
> >>>          QGIS, one day
> >>>          on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.
> >>>
> >>>          There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G
> >>>          event and I'm
> >>>          keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward
> >>>          making that
> >>>          happen.
> >>>
> >>>          On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>          >
> >>>          > - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in
> >>>          the recent
> >>>          > FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina).
> >>>
> >>>          That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will
> >>>          be valuable.
> >>>
> >>>          Cheers
> >>>          Daniel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>          --
> >>>          Sent from:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeo-Australia-New-Zealand-Local-Chapter-f3721347.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <
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> >
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