[OSGeo-Board] Infrastructure proposal/assessment - item for tomorrow?

Jo Walsh jo at frot.org
Fri Aug 4 10:24:16 PDT 2006

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 09:57:44AM -0700, Gary Lang wrote:
> Jo, thanks for doing this. It's definitely worth a look.

Well, this is a survey of what projects need in the way of online
services and have asked for - Cameron Shorter is keen to get Community
Mapbuilder out of codehaus - Bob Bray of MapGuide has spoken of this
as his basic needs. I hope it will be a useful indicator of a lowest
common denominator. 

I think there is a lot of volunteer energy to help set things up, but
not so much to maintain them. The Open Source Lab seem like a really
solid organisation. They provide 'unmanaged' hosting as well as
potentially custom 'managed' support - maintenance of OS, security
update, etc. They work with a lot of serious open source projects and
organisations who one would want to be friends with:

The situation with them is they run infrastructure for a lot of open
source projects; they are an independent organisation within OSU;
Google and IBM have sponsored them to be able to afford staff costs.
That is their biggest lag issue right now and they are actively
pursuing sponsorship. One could have N amount of a person's time from
them for a certain sum. This could be an option - OSGeo sponsoring the
OSL organisation and getting managed support in return. 

I'm recommending looking hard at this setup because it makes a lot of 
sense to me; what are our other options? While to a great extent we can 
syndicate hosting among different friendly institutions and try to rely 
on a small group of volunteers to maintain a central core... it really 
should *not* be something that OSGeo in general has to worry about in its 
daily transactions.   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tyler Mitchell (External) 
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:08 PM
> To: OSGeo-Board
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Board] Infrastructure proposal/assessment - item for
> tomorrow?
> Re: the proposal...
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Infrastructure_Proposal
> Three things that I think you need to discuss and, hopefully, decide
> tomorrow:
> 1) Timing urgency for moving/setting up each infrastructure component to
> a new platform
> 2) Tasking specific individuals/groups with responsibility for making it
> happen
> 3) Budget availability for setting up/administering new infrastructure
> Without any of these, nothing can be realistically expected to move
> forward.  I'm keen to help wherever I can.
> Hope this helps,
> Tyler
> On 3-Aug-06, at 11:14 AM, Jo Walsh wrote:
> > dear all,
> >
> > I added an item to the agenda for tomorrow - a discussion / sanity 
> > check of this assessment of OSGeo's infrastructure needs that Tyler 
> > and I started putting together over the last few days:
> >
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Infrastructure_Proposal
> >
> > This is a response to what Gary has been calling for a while - a 
> > definite outline of what project needs are and what tools are strongly
> > preferred, with a potential hosting and support option at the OSU Open
> > Source Lab which is really appealing - http://osuosl.org/
> >
> > Feedback apprec;  look forward to talking tomorrow
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