Visibilitiy Committee

Arnulf Christl arnulf.christl at ccgis.de
Tue Feb 28 09:15:59 PST 2006


Tyler Mitchell wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 01:44, Arnulf Christl wrote:
> 
>>Tyler, Markus,
>>both of you were proposed as potential members of this project, and I
>>already put you on the list without even having asked you. Please give a
>>thumbs up that you are willing to put in some effort.
> 
> 
> Hi Arnulf,
> I am willing to put in some effort - you can sign me up, but I still have to 
> check to see exactly what is being proposed.  I am also against a closed 
> list, especially as/when we want to engage the larger community - if the list 
> is closed then they we will always have to make that extra step of announcing 
> our ideas on another list.  What reasons do you have in mind for closing it.  
> I think we want others to watch and be involved with ideas, etc.
> 
> Tyler

Hi,
with closing this one I had in mind that we are operating near the 
publicity-, marketing- and product managing people from various 
companies, especially Autodesk. When we do that we have to be careful to 
not step on their feet doing things all too openly.

It is just a suggestion and maybe worth discussing a minute. The thing 
is that I want to avoid that we start to email offlist to a bunch of 
people who should know something that the rest - lurking malevolent 
elements - shouldn't. We would need to consent on an official policy of 
*why* we are not making this one open. Then it will be transparent and 
accepted. Possibly only the dev-list is closed/moderated. This is the 
place to work, set date lines, imagine booths, flyers, activities, etc. 
We can be creative without looking stupid when we do *not* manage to get 
something done that has been discussed awhile. Once we do approve of 
some agenda it should be put on the announce, issues and users lists, 
and those will need to be open anyway. Daniel, is it technically 
possible to have different permissions/visibility for each list?

(((I can't believe that its me all the time trying to protect, close and 
remove. :-) )))

Just to explain some more: I had so many fights with my partnering 
businesses here in the past years because I wanted to do something 
publicly, that I am now very, very careful with proposing something that 
could have the faintest inkling of losing control. For my part 
personally we could open up anything, it wouldn't hurt for sure. Its 
just that I imagine some Autodesk guys sitting in their think tank and 
scribbling important strategies regarding the next exhibition, press 
release, wehatever on a whitboard - only to find out that the jerks from 
the OSGeo have messed it up by discussing it in a public mailing list. 
This explains my motivation a bit better?

Maybe we should clear this point before moving discussion to 
dev at visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org and then start off open?

+1 from Arnulf for an open list, but I would understand if somebody has 
a problem with this.

Best regards,
Arnulf.




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