[Board] Re: [OSGeo Finance] Financial Statement for 2007

Dave McIlhagga dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca
Fri Apr 25 12:13:48 PDT 2008

For the benefit of the board -- here's some exchange that took place  
on the finance committee. I think we can come up with a decent  
solution here. As Arnulf mentioned -- this really needs to happen,  
and me being a bottleneck is not a good solution.

Please pipe in board if anyone has any comments on this.


Ken, Finance group,

I'm happy to act in the oversight role -- however, it's time for  
detailed financial review, meeting organization, etc... that are  
concerning me. i'll provide examples of things that I think this  
committee needs to do, but I just haven't found time to get my hands  
dirty on:

- Good quality content on the wiki concerning the Finance committee
- Organization of committee meetings
- Preliminary review of quarterly/annual financials vs. budget with  
summaries provided to the committee for questions and acceptance

If you and/or others are able to take on some of these activities --  
I'm more than happy to continue to be the liaison with the board as  
treasurer. I just don't think I have the bandwidth to take on direct  
responsibility for the above or similar activities.

Does this make any sense?

Thanks Ken btw for helping out.


On 25-Apr-08, at 2:26 PM, Ken Tamura wrote:

> Hello Finance Team,
> In the event that Dave is not able to take on these  
> responsibilities, I may have bandwidth to take this on.  However,  
> I'm not a board member. And therefore, I give my two cents to this  
> group only.
> Regards,
> Ken

Dave McIlhagga
President & CEO
DM Solutions Group (DMSG)
dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca
p: 613-565-5056 x15
f: 613-565-0925

On 25-Apr-08, at 3:03 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> Arnulf Christl wrote:
>> Hey Dave,
>> thanks for not just resigning and chucking it all in! Ha, need to  
>> add some more exclamation marks here!!! It is really painful to  
>> have to admit to run on reserve and still get ignored. I wish that  
>> I could do something more useful than mumbling "go on".
>> Paul,
>> you come to my mind as an option - would you be prepared to take  
>> on this job? A simple No is perfectly fine by me, no need to  
>> argument about it.
>> What other strategies do we have? This job very bluntly needs to  
>> get done. If we cannot find another way we will have to hire  
>> someone to do the job. I am the loudest  opposition to growing  
>> expenses for OSGeo but we cannot afford to let this go astray.   
>> I'd rather invest some time in finding more sponsors than to let  
>> this pass undone.
>> Tyler is not an option for me as he is way too much under pressure  
>> already and I would also prefer to keep a very clear separation of  
>> the ED's job and the treasurer.
>> Thoughts?
> Arnulf,
> I'm fine with the ED doing much of the day to day bookkeeping, or even
> us hiring a bookkeeper to do some the routine work.  But I don't  
> see that
> we can "contract out" the oversight role of the treasurer.  We could
> contemplate having an outside auditor though I'm not sure that lifts
> much of the work load.  It just gives the board and members a greater
> assurance of oversight.
> I'd also be happy to have Ken as treasurer.
> One thing I did suggest to Dave is to try and hold on till the board
> elections are done.  After that the new board should be reselecting
> our new President, Treasurer and Secretary so putting a different
> treasurer into place now might be premature.
> Best regards,
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