[Board] In-kind sponsorships

Ari Jolma ari.jolma at tkk.fi
Wed Oct 22 11:41:19 PDT 2008


I see the point you make. My reaction was that we shouldn't say no to 
somebody wanting to help.We do need help also, don't we? But yes, 
perhaps it's best to not use the word "sponsor" unless it's cash or 
something that has a price tag.

Ari

Robert Bray kirjoitti:
> I agree with everything said so far, Howard may have summed it up best. Let's not go down this path...
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Howard Butler
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:20 PM
> To: OSGeo-Board List
> Subject: Re: [Board] In-kind sponsorships
>
> IMO, it would be foolish to go down this very slippery slope.  Members
> who are active in committees and organization generate their own
> visibility, and if it is seen that a business is committing a lot of
> resources to allow someone to do stuff, that effort will be implicitly
> recognized.
>
> Recognizing in-kind effort presents a number of problems:
>
> - Impossible to quantify
> - We need money, do we not?
> - Pretty much the entire OSGeo enterprise has been an in-kind endeavor
> (except for the ED).  Do we recognize the past effort too?
>
> If you want to be recognized as a sponsor, pony up.  If you want to
> support OSGeo by providing some time, you can easily generate your own
> recognition by being active and visible.
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Ari Jolma wrote:
>
>   
>> IMO it would be foolish to turn down their offer only because "our
>> system does not understand you" (very softwareish, though).
>> Sponsoring is not just giving money. We just need an appropriate
>> category for sponsors of this kind.
>>
>> Meanwhile, my sponsor-seeking efforts have not yet produced
>> anything. My Nokia contact, however, forwarded the mail to somebody
>> else, but commented that perhaps all Nokia's geospatial money went
>> into buying Navteq.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ari
>>
>> Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) kirjoitti:
>>     
>>> I was asked by a potential sponsor if we would be able to designate
>>> them as a sponsor without paying for a sponsorship position.
>>> Instead, they were hoping to spend significant staff time working
>>> with OSGeo committees or helping organise some local events - and
>>> were hoping for recognition of their efforts.
>>>
>>> I explained that there is no current way to handle these kinds of
>>> "in-kind" contributions and that many other people and companies
>>> would also fall under this category.  If we went this route we
>>> could potentially stand to lose a lot of the funding we need to
>>> cover our real costs.  I promised to discuss it further with the
>>> board, so here I am...
>>>
>>> Tyler
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Prof. Ari Jolma
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