[Board] Fwd: [Foss4g2012] Meeting summary of FOSS4G 2012 meeting (3rd, July)
Jo Cook
jocook at astuntechnology.com
Mon Jul 9 12:23:56 PDT 2012
Totally agree with Daniel, it's up to them to decide and we owe them the courtesy of waiting at least a few days for their answer.
Jo
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On 9 Jul 2012, at 18:32, Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com> wrote:
> How about leaving Cameron a chance to finish the great job he has done opening a communication channel with them and getting some answers from them? Based on the IRC logs, we should hear a formal word from them anytime now. We've been waiting for several months, what's another couple of days?
>
> Cameron: can you please comment on this? When do you expect to be in touch with them again?
>
> My feeling based on what I read is that they want to cancel, and I think it will be better perceived if we announce the cancellation in collaboration with (or after getting formal word from) the Beijing people than if we just unilaterally do it while they are still trying to put something together.
>
> OTOH, if they decide to hold the event anyway, well, errr... I will have huge doubts as well.
>
> My 0.02$
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 12-07-09 12:54 PM, Peter Batty wrote:
>> I agree. It's a shame, but we need to face the facts and not have people
>> booking plane tickets etc.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Paul Ramsey <pramsey at opengeo.org
>> <mailto:pramsey at opengeo.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Honestly, it's Not Happening. They have no organizer, it's two months
>> to go time, there's no program, it's just no longer possible for them
>> to put on an international FOSS4G-style event. Even a regional event
>> would be a massive stretch. At this point WhereCamp Beijing seems like
>> a more achievable goal.
>>
>> Unfortunately I know of people who put in FOSS4G Beijing as their
>> conference request to their employers many months ago, they'll be
>> disappointed. However, as Jeroen points out, it can get worse: they
>> can book airline tickets and go to Beijing and find no event there.
>>
>> Clearly state: it's not going to happen.
>>
>> P.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Michael P. Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com
>> <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>> wrote:
>> > Jo is right, we’re waiting to hear something.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nonetheless, once again, I think the board needs to formally take
>> action on
>> > this. Specifically, we need to announce to the community that the
>> 2012
>> > international FOSS4G event is not happening (although there might
>> be a small
>> > regional event). We need to act to clarify the side-channel
>> discussions and
>> > rumors that continue to go on about this.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _mpg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> [mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>]
>> > On Behalf Of Jo Cook
>> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:36 AM
>> > To: Peter Batty
>> > Cc: board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Board] Fwd: [Foss4g2012] Meeting summary of FOSS4G 2012
>> > meeting (3rd, July)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Have we heard any more about this? My reading of things was that
>> they should
>> > have made a decision on go/no go by now.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jo
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Peter Batty <peter at ebatty.com
>> <mailto:peter at ebatty.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Forwarding to the board just in case anyone is not on the
>> foss4g2012 list.
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Shin, Sanghee <endofcap at gmail.com <mailto:endofcap at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:03 AM
>> > Subject: [Foss4g2012] Meeting summary of FOSS4G 2012 meeting
>> (3rd, July)
>> > To: FOSS4G 2012 <foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org>>
>> > Cc: Bo Guo <bo.guo at gisticinc.com <mailto:bo.guo at gisticinc.com>>,
>> Ang Gao <tomgaoang at gmail.com <mailto:tomgaoang at gmail.com>>, Zhengfan
>> > Lin <public.t.lin at gmail.com <mailto:public.t.lin at gmail.com>>,
>> Xianfeng Song <xfsong at gucas.ac.cn <mailto:xfsong at gucas.ac.cn>>, Yan Xun
>> > <yanxunyx at gmail.com <mailto:yanxunyx at gmail.com>>, Ang Gao
>> <gaoang at lreis.ac.cn <mailto:gaoang at lreis.ac.cn>>, Rongguo Chen
>> > <chenrg at lreis.ac.cn <mailto:chenrg at lreis.ac.cn>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Present :
>> > From China LOC:
>> > • Gao Ang
>> > • Xun Yan
>> >
>> > From International Volunteer Group:
>> > • Cameron Shorter
>> > • Sanghee Shin
>> > • Tanner Lin
>> > • Bo Guo
>> >
>> > Date & Time:
>> > • July 3rd, 2012 7:00 pm - 8:00 pm Beijing Time
>> >
>> > Log:
>> > • http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2012-07-03.log
>> >
>> > Minutes:
>> > • Gao Ang reported current situation of FOSS4G preparation from
>> LOC side.
>> > • Regarding PCO(Professional Conference Organizer) contract, LOC
>> failed to
>> > sign a PCO contract with 3S News, a PCO company, last week. And
>> LOC tried to
>> > find another PCO, but only to fail.
>> > • Currently LOC is not optimistic about the hosting FOSS4G 2012
>> successfully
>> > due to lacking of experiences and staffs.
>> > • Only 3 part time local volunteers are available in LOC now.
>> However they
>> > don't have enough time to handle all the conference issues.
>> > • LOC started to look over all the options including canceling.
>> > • Cameron suggested a financial assessment or simulation for
>> continuing and
>> > canceling conference.
>> > • LOC & International volunteer group looked over the possibility
>> of hosting
>> > FOSS4G 2012 as local event.
>> > • According to Gao Ang, if LOC could not find PCO or hire full time
>> > organizer, LOC would like to cancel conference rather than make
>> it a local
>> > event.
>> > • Cameron stated LOC should make decision soon whatever that may be.
>> > • Gao Ang will gather opinions from LOC members and then will
>> report LOC's
>> > final decision on FOSS4G to OSGeo Board by this weekend.
>> >
>> > Pending Issues:
>> > • LOC's final decision on FOSS4G 2012 including canceling,
>> continuing and
>> > downgrading to local event.
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