[Foss4g2012] RE: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event

Fri May 25 12:54:26 PDT 2012

Hi again,

So in that case, may be better to annouce that FOSS4G was held in three
diffrent places this year i guess: NA, CEE and PRC.
I think some pointed that already in a clever way, and that would be better
for FOSS4G marketing i guess.
No global event this year ? Yes, 3 of them ! (with strong push on
local/regional chapters)

What about OSGeo AGM and SK, should they be postponed to next year ?

Best,

Nick

2012/5/25 Michael P. Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com>

> OK, I’ll make an official motion.****
>
> ** **
>
> PROPOSED:   There will be no annual, international FOSS4G event this year.
> There will be a regional OSGeo conference in Beijing in September 2012, but
> it will not include an Annual General Meeting nor will the Sol Katz award
> be announced there.****
>
> ** **
>
> My motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt a rationale; it
> simply states the facts as they are.****
>
> ** **
>
> -mpg****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
> conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *seven at arnulf.us
> *Sent:* Friday, May 25, 2012 12:28 PM
> *To:* 'conference'; OSGeo Board
> *Cc:* 'FOSS4G 2012'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Hi,
> there is no motion on the floor. My intention is simply to follow up on a
> standing request by many people who keep asking about the event in Beijing.
> In the absence of a functioning conference committee I believe it is the
> board's job to answer.
>
> I have no intention of discouraging anybody going there but it is not
> going to be comparable to previous global events. Whoever has the
> capacities to make it so please step up. Now. We need an AGM, international
> keynoters, some board representation, Sol Katz Award event and other stuff
> I currently cannot see and am not expecting anymore.
>
> Where is the problem in being honest about this? I can already see the
> frustration of people and corresponding media reports after the fact saying
> that we have 'failed'. No need for this.
>
> If someone else sees the need for an official note please take over, it is
> not that important to me.
>
> Best regards,
> Arnulf
>
> --
> Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)
> http://arnulf.us
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Michael P. Gerlek" <mpg at flaxen.com>
> To: "'Tim Schaub'" <tschaub at opengeo.org>
> Cc: "'conference'" <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>, "'FOSS4G 2012'" <
> foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org>, <board at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
> Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20
>
>
> We need to set people's expectations that this is not the usual annual
> global event at which there will be large number of international
> attendees, the Sol Katz Award, the annual general meeting, etc.
>
> -mpg
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Schaub [mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM
> > To: mpg at flaxen.com
> > Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012; board at lists.osgeo.org
> > Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
> >
> > What would be the desired outcome of any motion we could make?  Do you
> > want to encourage people not to attend?  I doubt that.  Is this just
> > about conveying disappointment?
> >
> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P. Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com>
> wrote:
> > >> This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at best
> > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to be ''the''
> > >> global meeting of the tribes.
> > >
> > > Agreed, I've been saying as much for a while now. I think the board
> needs to formally make that announcement asap -- perhaps a
> > motion is in order?
> > >
> > > -mpg
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Seven (aka
> > Arnulf)
> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM
> > >> To: conference; FOSS4G 2012
> > >> Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
> > >>
> > >> Folks,
> > >> on the website at http://2012.foss4g.org/ there is still no option
> for
> > >> submitting abstracts although the submission has been opened -
> > >> apparently without notice to any of the regular OSGeo channels.
> > >> Workshops submission ends in two weeks.
> > >>
> > >> No international speakers have been announced and there are only
> Chinese
> > >> sponsors listed (although interest by regulars was documented as early
> > >> as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at
> best
> > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to be ''the''
> > >> global meeting of the tribes.
> > >>
> > >> We should at the same time continue to support FOSS4G in Beijing as a
> > >> regional event and help them wherever they let us.
> > >>
> > >> On http://2012.foss4g.org/ the link to the OSGeo Wiki page in the
> lower
> > >> right should be removed as it is not being used (and currently points
> to
> > >> a 404).
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Arnulf
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Exploring Space, Time and Mind
> > >> http://arnulf.us
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