[Foss4g2012] RE: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event

[Seven (aka Arnulf)]

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/me likes this too. Well said, Nick

On 25.05.2012 21:54, nicolas bozon wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> So in that case, may be better to annouce that FOSS4G was held in
> three diffrent places this year i guess: NA, CEE and PRC. I think
> some pointed that already in a clever way, and that would be better
> for FOSS4G marketing i guess. No global event this year ? Yes, 3 of
> them ! (with strong push on local/regional chapters)
> 
> What about OSGeo AGM and SK, should they be postponed to next year
> ?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 2012/5/25 Michael P. Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com
> <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>>
> 
> OK, I’ll make an official motion.____
> 
> __ __
> 
> PROPOSED:   There will be no annual, international FOSS4G event
> this year. There will be a regional OSGeo conference in Beijing in 
> September 2012, but it will not include an Annual General Meeting 
> nor will the Sol Katz award be announced there.____
> 
> __ __
> 
> My motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt a
> rationale; it simply states the facts as they are.____
> 
> __ __
> 
> -mpg____
> 
> __ __
> 
> *From:*conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
> <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> 
> [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
> <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] *On Behalf Of 
> *seven at arnulf.us <mailto:seven at arnulf.us> *Sent:* Friday, May 25,
> 2012 12:28 PM *To:* 'conference'; OSGeo Board *Cc:* 'FOSS4G 2012'
> 
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
> regional event____
> 
> __ __
> 
> Hi, there is no motion on the floor. My intention is simply to
> follow up on a standing request by many people who keep asking
> about the event in Beijing. In the absence of a functioning
> conference committee I believe it is the board's job to answer.
> 
> I have no intention of discouraging anybody going there but it is 
> not going to be comparable to previous global events. Whoever has 
> the capacities to make it so please step up. Now. We need an AGM, 
> international keynoters, some board representation, Sol Katz Award 
> event and other stuff I currently cannot see and am not expecting 
> anymore.
> 
> Where is the problem in being honest about this? I can already see 
> the frustration of people and corresponding media reports after
> the fact saying that we have 'failed'. No need for this.
> 
> If someone else sees the need for an official note please take
> over, it is not that important to me.
> 
> Best regards, Arnulf
> 
> -- Arnulf Christl (aka Seven) http://arnulf.us
> 
> ----- Reply message ----- From: "Michael P. Gerlek" <mpg at flaxen.com
> <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>> To: "'Tim Schaub'" <tschaub at opengeo.org
> <mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org>> Cc: "'conference'"
> <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org 
> <mailto:conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>>, "'FOSS4G 2012'" 
> <foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org>>, 
> <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>> Subject:
> [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event Date:
> Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20
> 
> 
> We need to set people's expectations that this is not the usual 
> annual global event at which there will be large number of 
> international attendees, the Sol Katz Award, the annual general 
> meeting, etc.
> 
> -mpg
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tim Schaub
>> [mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]
> <mailto:[mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]>
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM To: mpg at flaxen.com
>> <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com> Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012;
>> board at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
>> regional
> event
>> 
>> What would be the desired outcome of any motion we could make?
>> Do you want to encourage people not to attend?  I doubt that.  Is
>> this just about conveying disappointment?
>> 
>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P. Gerlek
>> <mpg at flaxen.com
> <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>> wrote:
>>>> This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at best and I
>>>> believe we must make clear that this is not going to be
> ''the''
>>>> global meeting of the tribes.
>>> 
>>> Agreed, I've been saying as much for a while now. I think the
> board needs to formally make that announcement asap -- perhaps a
>> motion is in order?
>>> 
>>> -mpg
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From:
>>>> conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> 
> [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] 
> <mailto:[mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]> On Behalf 
> Of Seven (aka
>> Arnulf)
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM To: conference; FOSS4G
>>>> 2012 Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
>>>> 
>>>> Folks, on the website at http://2012.foss4g.org/ there is
>>>> still no
> option for
>>>> submitting abstracts although the submission has been opened
>>>> - apparently without notice to any of the regular OSGeo
>>>> channels. Workshops submission ends in two weeks.
>>>> 
>>>> No international speakers have been announced and there are
> only Chinese
>>>> sponsors listed (although interest by regulars was
>>>> documented
> as early
>>>> as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional
> event at best
>>>> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to
>>>> be
> ''the''
>>>> global meeting of the tribes.
>>>> 
>>>> We should at the same time continue to support FOSS4G in
> Beijing as a
>>>> regional event and help them wherever they let us.
>>>> 
>>>> On http://2012.foss4g.org/ the link to the OSGeo Wiki page
>>>> in
> the lower
>>>> right should be removed as it is not being used (and
>>>> currently
> points to
>>>> a 404).
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards, Arnulf
>>>> 
>>>> -- Exploring Space, Time and Mind http://arnulf.us 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- Tim Schaub OpenGeo http://opengeo.org/ Expert service straight
>> from the developers.
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