[Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...
Michael Gerlek
mpg at flaxen.com
Thu Dec 26 10:12:13 PST 2013
Do we have a resolution on this yet?
-mpg
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2013 at 6:31 AM
To: Michael Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com>, Paolo Cavallini
<cavallini at faunalia.it>, Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com>
Cc: OSGeo Board <board at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...
>My short answer:
>
>It is simpler to send the money directly to Stephan at this point. He is
>setting up an open budget/reporting spreadsheet for the event which will
>include reporting for this amount (as was done for most previous
>editions). I say we can decide on how to deal with the 2014 surplus
>after the sprint (go through OSGeo, or directly to Philly team).
>
>My long answer;
>
>Contrary to what is suggested by a few people in this thread, I don't
>think that everything with an OSGeo label needs to go through OSGeo's
>bank account, as long as it is done in an open way (open budget and
>reporting) and there is no indication of fraud for instance. However, if
>OSGeo can help manage the finances (or carrying the surplus from year to
>year) of an activity without too much overhead then I'm all for it.
>
>For instance, the QGIS, GRASS and Bolsena sprints all have their own
>ways to manage money and all we ask for them is to have open books if
>they want OSGeo to provide funding. Same for local FOSS4G/OSGeo events
>in several regions of the world. In the case of the C Tribe sprint, it
>is not even asking for money from OSGeo, it got its own sponsors year
>over year and accumulated a surplus over the years, so I see no reason
>to force the sprint to be managed by OSGeo unless it helps the
>organizers in some way.
>
>
>That's just my 0.02$ or course, which doesn't mean that having a heavier
>OSGeo with tighter control on anything done by anyone around the world
>with an OSGeo label is a bad idea. But if we were to go that route then
>we'd need more hands to carry the weight and manage that heavier
>structure.
>
>Daniel
>
>
>On 13-11-13 3:52 PM, Michael Gerlek wrote:
>> Dearest Board:
>>
>> What¹s the consensus on this? Should the money go to Stefan or to
>>Daniel?
>>
>> -mpg, ready to write a big check
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
>><mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>>
>> Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:58 AM
>> To: Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com <mailto:aaronr at z-pulley.com>>,
>> Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com
>> <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>>
>> Cc: OSGeo Board <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...
>>
>> +1
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com <mailto:aaronr at z-pulley.com>> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>> Personally I think this is a bad model. If these are OSGeo
>> sprints, OSGeo should carry the cash from year to year and use
>> it to help subsidize the sprints.
>>
>> For many informal orgs (who end up hosting these events) it is
>> hard to carry this cash for long periods of time on their books
>> (if they are even formal enough to have books). We at CUGOS
>> have held this money for 2+ years.
>>
>> If OSGeo is serious about these types of events it seems like
>> making an ongoing account within the organization to carry this
>> money would be wise.
>>
>> Just my $0.02
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Daniel Morissette
>> <dmorissette at mapgears.com <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. I'd say we pass it on to Stephan for the 2014 sprint.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On 13-10-31 1:07 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>> Turn it over to the 2014 folks, IMO
>>>>
>>>> P
>>>>
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>>>> On October 31, 2013 at 10:05:52 AM, Michael Gerlek
>>>> (mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>
>>>> <mailto://mpg@flaxen.com>) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There was a surplus of $2,052.92 from the 2011 Sprint event
>>>>> and a
>>>>> surplus of $2,392.06 from the 2012 Sprint event and a
>>>>>deficit of
>>>>> $992.54 from the 2013 Sprint event, for a total of $3452.44
>>>>> being held
>>>>> in trust today by CUGOS for future sprint events
>>>>>
>>>>> We (CUGOS) would like to get this money off our books and
>>>>> turn it over
>>>>> to either the 2014 sprint organizers or to OSGeo itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions, thoughts, comments?
>>>>>
>>>>> -mpg
>>>>>
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