[Board] FOSS4G 2014 RFP Vote

[Peter Batty]

Oops, finger trouble with previous email.

I agree with David and Michael that the location of the NA conference is
not something that should be mixed in here. OSGeo has had no role in that
up to this point so can't just suddenly dictate that.

We have two good proposals and it's a shame that one has to lose. But we've
been in that situation before. Denver and Utrecht both had good bids that
lost to Barcelona, Denver ended up bidding again and won it subsequently.

So I agree we need a short time for review / discussion followed by a vote.
Not sure I agree the vote should be public, it has always been private in
the past on the conference committee?


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:36 AM, David William Bitner
<bitner at dbspatial.com>wrote:

> The precedence to date has been that the regional events are events
> selected and organized by the regions at a bit of an arms length from OSGeo
> International. FOSS4G-NA in Minneapolis did not have the resources to
> operate without OSGeo as a financial backstop (note we just needed the
> "insurance"  of a financial backstop, not any up-front thanks to the
> FOSS4G-NA organizers in DC).
>
> If OSGeo is going to get in the business of selecting the locations for
> any of these regionals, in my opinion, OSGeo better be willing to step up
> to play a much more active role in these events. The direction from OSGeo
> to these regional events has been wishy-washy at best. I think that OSGeo
> needs a real strategy for these events. FOSS4G-NA is not a consolation
> prize, it is an event thrown by and for the NA community with a focus on
> the issues of that region.
>
> If the OSGeo Board and the Conf Comm believe that an LOC needs more
> experience, I think it is reasonable to encourage them to bid for a
> regional event as things are run right now.
>
>  David
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Mark,
>> I do like your proposal of 1st place being awarded FOSS4G Global, and 2nd
>> place being offered FOSS4G-NA the following year.
>>
>> However, I'm not sure who will be responsible for selecting the FOSS4G-NA
>> city, or what process is in place (if any) for selecting a FOSS4G-NA city.
>> If someone following this thread is in the know, I'd encourage you to speak
>> up.
>>
>>
>> On 23/07/2013 12:01 PM, Mark Lucas wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like we are making up the rules as we go along.  I think we either
>> have a board vote or not.  If someone wants to abstain because they believe
>> they have a conflict of interest that should be their personal decision.
>>
>>  I'd like to find a way to select one as the international conference
>> and let the other organize as a regional.
>>
>>  I'd really like to find a way to build up OSGeo revenues through some
>> of the regional conferences as well.  Perhaps as simple as when they need
>> OSGeo financial backing we work a division of profits.
>>
>>  First step is simply selecting the international venue.
>>
>>  Mark
>>
>>
>>  On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 13-07-22 8:33 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>
>> Right, this makes sense Arnulf.
>>
>> My concern was merely that if there is one proposal with "broad support"
>> (a.k.a. conflict of interest), and all those people step out of voting
>> (both on the conf committee as on the board), the vote will be very
>> skewed. This is exactly what Daniel has pointed out.
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, I believe Mark Lucas is on the DC LOC so we'd lose him as well for
>> the vote unless I'm mistaken.
>>
>>
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