[Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...

[Daniel Morissette]

My short answer:

It is simpler to send the money directly to Stephan at this point. He is 
setting up an open budget/reporting spreadsheet for the event which will 
include reporting for this amount (as was done for most previous 
editions). I say we can decide on how to deal with the 2014 surplus 
after the sprint (go through OSGeo, or directly to Philly team).

My long answer;

Contrary to what is suggested by a few people in this thread, I don't 
think that everything with an OSGeo label needs to go through OSGeo's 
bank account, as long as it is done in an open way (open budget and 
reporting) and there is no indication of fraud for instance. However, if 
OSGeo can help manage the finances (or carrying the surplus from year to 
year) of an activity without too much overhead then I'm all for it.

For instance, the QGIS, GRASS and Bolsena sprints all have their own 
ways to manage money and all we ask for them is to have open books if 
they want OSGeo to provide funding. Same for local FOSS4G/OSGeo events 
in several regions of the world. In the case of the C Tribe sprint, it 
is not even asking for money from OSGeo, it got its own sponsors year 
over year and accumulated a surplus over the years, so I see no reason 
to force the sprint to be managed by OSGeo unless it helps the 
organizers in some way.


That's just my 0.02$ or course, which doesn't mean that having a heavier 
OSGeo with tighter control on anything done by anyone around the world 
with an OSGeo label is a bad idea. But if we were to go that route then 
we'd need more hands to carry the weight and manage that heavier structure.

Daniel


On 13-11-13 3:52 PM, Michael Gerlek wrote:
> Dearest Board:
>
> What’s the consensus on this? Should the money go to Stefan or to Daniel?
>
> -mpg, ready to write a big check
>
>
>
>
> From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>>
> Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:58 AM
> To: Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com <mailto:aaronr at z-pulley.com>>,
> Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com
> <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>>
> Cc: OSGeo Board <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Board] Sprint surplus over at CUGOS...
>
>     +1
>     Thanks.
>
>     Aaron Racicot <aaronr at z-pulley.com <mailto:aaronr at z-pulley.com>> ha
>     scritto:
>
>         Personally I think this is a bad model.  If these are OSGeo
>         sprints, OSGeo should carry the cash from year to year and use
>         it to help subsidize the sprints.
>
>         For many informal orgs (who end up hosting these events) it is
>         hard to carry this cash for long periods of time on their books
>         (if they are even formal enough to have books).  We at CUGOS
>         have held this money for 2+ years.
>
>         If OSGeo is serious about these types of events it seems like
>         making an ongoing account within the organization to carry this
>         money would be wise.
>
>         Just my $0.02
>
>         A
>
>
>         On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Daniel Morissette
>         <dmorissette at mapgears.com <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>> wrote:
>
>>         Agreed. I'd say we pass it on to Stephan for the 2014 sprint.
>>
>>         Daniel
>>
>>         On 13-10-31 1:07 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>         Turn it over to the 2014 folks, IMO
>>>
>>>         P
>>>
>>>         --
>>>         Paul Ramsey
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>>>         On October 31, 2013 at 10:05:52 AM, Michael Gerlek
>>>         (mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>
>>>         <mailto://mpg@flaxen.com>) wrote:
>>>
>>>>         There was a surplus of $2,052.92 from the 2011 Sprint event
>>>>         and a
>>>>         surplus of $2,392.06 from the 2012 Sprint event and a deficit of
>>>>         $992.54 from the 2013 Sprint event, for a total of $3452.44
>>>>         being held
>>>>         in trust today by CUGOS for future sprint events
>>>>
>>>>         We (CUGOS) would like to get this money off our books and
>>>>         turn it over
>>>>         to either the 2014 sprint organizers or to OSGeo itself.
>>>>
>>>>         Suggestions, thoughts, comments?
>>>>
>>>>         -mpg
>>>>
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