[Board] foss4g europe

[Cameron Shorter]

Arnulf,
Great advice. I suggest copying into the Cookbook, otherwise future 
communities are susceptible to repeat mistakes.

On 20/11/2013 8:12 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:
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> Jachym,
> please go ahead and maintain the connection to the FOSS4G-E LOC. I
> cannot see anybody else who would be in a better position than yourself.
> There will be no sentiments against you or your role on the FOSS4G-E
> LOC. Instead everybody will be happy to have you there.
>
> Just one last time, for the record: The initial stir caused by FOSS4G-E
> was simply caused by announcing an event without involving the local
> community. Specifically: The FOSSGIS organizers (including myself) heard
> of FOSS4G-E for the first time when it was officially announced at
> FOSS4G in Nottingham. That was a very bad move because we are used to
> selecting conference venues transparently. We make sure that dates do
> not overlap and we don't cannibalize each other's attendees, etc. None
> of these concerns were addressed publicly, hence people were angered.
> Simple as that.
>
> I suggest that we make it a rule that anybody wanting to make use of the
> brand FOSS4G must first announce this on conference dev (will make this
> a separate motion on their list). Fur us Local Chaps it is really this
> very first announcement which is so important because then people can
> wrap their head around it, voice their concerns, offer to help, etc.
>
> I hope that this clears up the confusion around FOSS4G-E 2014. We will
> do our best to support FOSSGIS, the OSGeo day at AGIT and FOSS4G-E.
>
> In a nutshell: Next time anything happens in Germany kindly let the
> Local Chapter know beforehand (just like anywhere else in the world).
>
> Have fun,
> Arnulf
>
> On 19.11.2013 21:28, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>> Very short back
>>
>> Dne 19.11.2013 21:17, Daniel Morissette napsal(a):
>>> On 13-11-19 2:58 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>>>> Yes, I agree with you. I already try to work in a "liaison" way on both
>>>> sides. We can formalize this status of mine (or anybody’s else!) on our
>>>> next meeting (?).
>>>>
>>> I guess OSGeo would first need to receive a formal invitation from the
>>> FOSS4G-Europe LOC to join the event as partner organization and to
>>> appoint a liaison for the LOC.
>> OK, will take care of it.
>>
>>> Then we (OSGeo) would respond by appointing you.
>>>
>>>
>>> About the rest of your email (quoted below), I'm not sure if I
>>> understand what you are getting at. Is it that you are not comfortable
>>> being the liaison, or just that you need more people from European local
>>> chapters for the LOC?
>> I all for doing it. I just think, it would be better, if it would be
>> someone else, since I could be considered as "captivated" (do I use the
>> proper word?) by some people, what I would like to avoid. I would like
>> to continue to be in the LOC either way.
>>
>>> About a place to find good candidates, I don't think there is a perfect
>>> place but the conference-dev and local-chapters lists might be good
>>> places to start. When it is me organizing something, I look in my
>>> network and talk directly to the people who might be good candidates and
>>> check their interest to join the LOC. Then once we've found someone we
>>> make their role more formal.
>> So do I, but than some people say, the process is not open enough :-D
>>
>> Just sight
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jachym
>>
>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I do have little problem with the community feedback - apparently I did
>>>> not manage to hit the proper niche of people, giving feedback (even we
>>>> did obtain several positive reactions via mailing lists).
>>>>
>>>> What I want to say: if we would be searching for OSGeo representative in
>>>> the FOSS4G-Europe LOC except for myself, would conference-dev be the
>>>> right place to go? Isn't there some better way, how to ask people, who
>>>> want to make such type of contribution? I would like to see someone from
>>>> not-targeted-yet (yet strong) communities being on the
>>>> foss4g-europe-board for 2014, how could also cover the OSGeo
>>>> representation there, like Dutch Language OSGeo Chapter, French language
>>>> OSGeo Chapter or for example United Kingdom OSGeo Chapter.
>>>>
>>>> If you think, my personality is the best at the moment, I'm going to
>>>> do it.
>>>>
>>>> Jachym
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Once again, it's a small formality, but I believe that if someone is
>>>>> formally appointed in such a role then that may be a way to reduce the
>>>>> chances of things falling in between chairs, and would (I hope) ensure a
>>>>> stronger presence and visibility of OSGeo in the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that the liaison for this or other events does not absolutely have
>>>>> to be a member of the board. It could be any trustworthy member of the
>>>>> community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>
>>
>>
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