[Board] foss4g europe

Wed Nov 20 01:49:19 PST 2013

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Cameron,
I just carried this over to the conference dev list. If there is general
agreement we can add this to the conference handbook and make it
official by passing a motion through the board.

Cheers,
Arnulf

On 20.11.2013 10:38, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Arnulf,
> Great advice. I suggest copying into the Cookbook, otherwise future
> communities are susceptible to repeat mistakes.
> 
> On 20/11/2013 8:12 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:
> Jachym,
> please go ahead and maintain the connection to the FOSS4G-E LOC. I
> cannot see anybody else who would be in a better position than yourself.
> There will be no sentiments against you or your role on the FOSS4G-E
> LOC. Instead everybody will be happy to have you there.
> 
> Just one last time, for the record: The initial stir caused by FOSS4G-E
> was simply caused by announcing an event without involving the local
> community. Specifically: The FOSSGIS organizers (including myself) heard
> of FOSS4G-E for the first time when it was officially announced at
> FOSS4G in Nottingham. That was a very bad move because we are used to
> selecting conference venues transparently. We make sure that dates do
> not overlap and we don't cannibalize each other's attendees, etc. None
> of these concerns were addressed publicly, hence people were angered.
> Simple as that.
> 
> I suggest that we make it a rule that anybody wanting to make use of the
> brand FOSS4G must first announce this on conference dev (will make this
> a separate motion on their list). Fur us Local Chaps it is really this
> very first announcement which is so important because then people can
> wrap their head around it, voice their concerns, offer to help, etc.
> 
> I hope that this clears up the confusion around FOSS4G-E 2014. We will
> do our best to support FOSSGIS, the OSGeo day at AGIT and FOSS4G-E.
> 
> In a nutshell: Next time anything happens in Germany kindly let the
> Local Chapter know beforehand (just like anywhere else in the world).
> 
> Have fun,
> Arnulf
> 
> On 19.11.2013 21:28, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>>>> Very short back
>>>>
>>>> Dne 19.11.2013 21:17, Daniel Morissette napsal(a):
>>>>> On 13-11-19 2:58 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, I agree with you. I already try to work in a "liaison" way on
>>>>>> both
>>>>>> sides. We can formalize this status of mine (or anybody’s else!) on
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> next meeting (?).
>>>>>>
>>>>> I guess OSGeo would first need to receive a formal invitation from the
>>>>> FOSS4G-Europe LOC to join the event as partner organization and to
>>>>> appoint a liaison for the LOC.
>>>> OK, will take care of it.
>>>>
>>>>> Then we (OSGeo) would respond by appointing you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> About the rest of your email (quoted below), I'm not sure if I
>>>>> understand what you are getting at. Is it that you are not comfortable
>>>>> being the liaison, or just that you need more people from European
>>>>> local
>>>>> chapters for the LOC?
>>>> I all for doing it. I just think, it would be better, if it would be
>>>> someone else, since I could be considered as "captivated" (do I use the
>>>> proper word?) by some people, what I would like to avoid. I would like
>>>> to continue to be in the LOC either way.
>>>>
>>>>> About a place to find good candidates, I don't think there is a perfect
>>>>> place but the conference-dev and local-chapters lists might be good
>>>>> places to start. When it is me organizing something, I look in my
>>>>> network and talk directly to the people who might be good candidates
>>>>> and
>>>>> check their interest to join the LOC. Then once we've found someone we
>>>>> make their role more formal.
>>>> So do I, but than some people say, the process is not open enough :-D
>>>>
>>>> Just sight
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jachym
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I do have little problem with the community feedback - apparently I
>>>>>> did
>>>>>> not manage to hit the proper niche of people, giving feedback (even we
>>>>>> did obtain several positive reactions via mailing lists).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I want to say: if we would be searching for OSGeo
>>>>>> representative in
>>>>>> the FOSS4G-Europe LOC except for myself, would conference-dev be the
>>>>>> right place to go? Isn't there some better way, how to ask people, who
>>>>>> want to make such type of contribution? I would like to see someone
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> not-targeted-yet (yet strong) communities being on the
>>>>>> foss4g-europe-board for 2014, how could also cover the OSGeo
>>>>>> representation there, like Dutch Language OSGeo Chapter, French
>>>>>> language
>>>>>> OSGeo Chapter or for example United Kingdom OSGeo Chapter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think, my personality is the best at the moment, I'm going to
>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jachym
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again, it's a small formality, but I believe that if someone is
>>>>>>> formally appointed in such a role then that may be a way to reduce
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> chances of things falling in between chairs, and would (I hope)
>>>>>>> ensure a
>>>>>>> stronger presence and visibility of OSGeo in the event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that the liaison for this or other events does not absolutely
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to be a member of the board. It could be any trustworthy member of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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