[Board] Proposal: OSGeo cover board member dinner expenses
Paul Ramsey
pramsey at cleverelephant.ca
Wed Sep 11 16:07:28 PDT 2013
I think that buying board members dinner is something that rich foundations do, but not something that poor foundations do. Where is OSGeo in the continuum?
P
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Paul Ramsey
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On Wednesday, 11 September, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> I unfortunately won't be at FOSS4G, however I think that OSGeo should
> cover expenses of board members doing board business. Dinner expenses
> should be covered.
>
> As such,
> I propose:
> 1. That current board member' and ex-board member dinner expenses are
> covered up to the cost of a 3 course meal and soft drinks. Alcoholic
> drinks to be covered by board members.
> +1 Cameron
>
> 2. Non board members are welcome to join the meeting, but will need to
> cover their own expenses.
> +1 Cameron
>
> On 11/09/2013 11:18 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> > I hope all Board (and interested community) members can give their
> > advice here on this Board mailing list today.
> >
> > 13 OGC Board members, it is quite an opportunity. So far I have the
> > following confirmed from OSGeo for this dinner:
> >
> > - Frank
> > - Jachym
> > - Anne
> > - Ian
> > - Suchith
> > - myself
> >
> > Note that we must each select our meal choices to Jeremy by Friday.
> >
> > So maybe my original estimation of 8 from OSGeo is good for the reservation.
> >
> > Should we just pay our own ways?
> >
> > Looking for advice here. (note that this meetup has bounced around on
> > people's plates and finally fallen on my lap, with many sending direct
> > messages to me, so please speak publicly, as I am getting swamped)
> >
> > -jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2013-09-10 2:41 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> > > Forwarding to OSGeo Board. Board: we'll need to decide asap whether to
> > > move forward, motion to approve use of funds, or not.
> > >
> > > -jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Plans for OGC/OSGeo Board meetup
> > > Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:26:18 +0100
> > > From: Jeremy Morley <Jeremy.Morley at nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Jeremy.Morley at nottingham.ac.uk)>
> > > To: Debbie Greenslit <dgreenslit at opengeospatial.org (mailto:dgreenslit at opengeospatial.org)>, Suchith Anand
> > > <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk)>, Jeff McKenna
> > > <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com (mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com)>, Ian Edwards
> > > <ian.edwards at metoffice.gov.uk (mailto:ian.edwards at metoffice.gov.uk)>, Mark Iliffe <psxmi at nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:psxmi at nottingham.ac.uk)>
> > > CC: Denise McKenzie <dmckenzie at opengeospatial.org (mailto:dmckenzie at opengeospatial.org)>, Steven Feldman
> > > <steven at knowwhereconsulting.co.uk (mailto:steven at knowwhereconsulting.co.uk)>, "Mark E. Reichardt"
> > > <mreichardt at opengeospatial.org (mailto:mreichardt at opengeospatial.org)>
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear all, (would Jeff mind please forwarding to the OSGeo Board list),
> > >
> > > We're just over a week away from the joint OSGeo/OGC dinner. At present
> > > the reservation is for 25 people - I understand that includes 13 from OGC
> > > the last I heard.
> > >
> > > The restaurant have asked that diners please choose their courses in
> > > advance, to be returned to them on Friday. I've attached the menu to this
> > > email. Mark Iliffe (copied) will keep track and pass the list on to the
> > > restaurant - please simply reply to him with your choices.
> > >
> > > At the moment I've not specifically ordered drinks (water, wine, etc.)
> > > given the mix of who's paying for what, but can do if asked.
> > >
> > >
> > > Based on the list we can also resize the reservation.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ --
> > > Jeremy Morley
> > > Geospatial Science Theme Leader, Nottingham Geospatial Institute,
> > > Triumph Road, University of Nottingham. NG7 2TU, United Kingdom.
> > > Web: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/ngi Twitter: jeremy_morley
> > > Tel.: +44/0 115 84 68411
> > > Email: jeremy.morley at nottingham.ac.uk (mailto:jeremy.morley at nottingham.ac.uk)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/09/2013 14:06, "Jeff McKenna" <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com (mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com)> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ian,
> > > >
> > > > You are encouraged to join, thanks, it will be great to have you there.
> > > > I can even see you leading some of this discussion, as I can tell that
> > > > you have passion for the OGC relationship. Please come along.
> > > >
> > > > Also Arnulf, can you make it to this on Wednesday night?
> > > >
> > > > -jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2013-09-10 9:58 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming I can solicit an invitation... I would like to join you at the
> > > > > joint OSGeo/OGC dinner (paying my own way of course).
> > > > >
> > > > > The conference falls at an ideal time to reflect on OGC's Ideas4OGC
> > > > > process[1], and I have a strong feeling that there are opportunities to
> > > > > build on our 2008 MoU to the benefit of both communities.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have a place holder for a BoF session early on Friday 20th to get
> > > > > more open discussion and feedback[2], but one of the outcomes from
> > > > > Wednesday evening may be that we would like to make use of other
> > > > > opportunities during the FOSS4G week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian Edwards,
> > > > > OSGeo UK
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://external.opengeospatial.org/twiki_public/Ideas4OGC/LeaderShip
> > > > > [2]
> > > > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2013_BirdsOfAFeather#OGC.2FOSGeo_meet_u
> > > > > p
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jeff McKenna
> > > > > <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jeremy, Board,
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh ok, I didn't know that you are not on the Board list.
> > > > >
> > > > > I myself don't have a ticket for the ice breaker, so I am confirmed.
> > > > > Including Daniel and Frank (emailed me directly), we'll likely have
> > > > > between 4 and 8 OSGeo Board members there. I also want to include
> > > > > Arnulf, who has been a constant driving force between uniting
> > > > > OGC-OSGeo.
> > > > > (Jachym, I'm not forgetting your potential inclusion either)
> > > > >
> > > > > I would say to reserve a table for 20 (12 OGC Board members, plus
> > > > > roughly 8 OSGeo reps).
> > > > >
> > > > > I would then estimate a cost of roughly 35pounds each (inc a drink,
> > > > > and
> > > > > tip), which would mean approx 1100 USD (or 550 USD each for OSGeo
> > > > > and
> > > > > the OGC).
> > > > >
> > > > > If the Board is interested, I would make a motion to approve the
> > > > > use of
> > > > > $550 maximum for an OGC-OSGeo meetup.
> > > > >
> > > > > General reaction by the Board?
> > > > >
> > > > > As Daniel pointed out, there is already an OGC-OSGeo meetup planned
> > > > > for
> > > > > Friday morning (I was already confirmed for attending that):
> > > > >
> > > > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2013_BirdsOfAFeather#OGC.2FOSGeo_meet_u
> > > > > p
> > > > > It could be that the OSGeo Board decides as a group to attend
> > > > > that, and
> > > > > not set aside funding for a separate meetup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Speak up as Jeremy needs our thoughts now.
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2013-09-03 8:21 PM, Jeremy Morley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that I'm not on the board mailing list so it may be only you
> > > > > who saw
> > > > > > the original email - it may be useful to be able to post to the
> > > > >
> > > > > list for
> > > > > > this conversation, otherwise please relay my messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, yes, the current plan is that there's this relatively
> > > > > formal
> > > > > > get-together with the OGC board (12 of them, I think) at 7pm on
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Wednesday (18th) as a dinner in the hotel restaurant. The cost is
> > > > >
> > > > > £24/head
> > > > > > for the three course meal, drinks additional, but including VAT
> > > > >
> > > > > (our sales
> > > > > > tax).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is the FOSS4G ice breaker at the same time - I don't know
> > > > > (meaning I
> > > > > > don't know, rather than "I don't think it is") if this is the sort
> > > > >
> > > > > of the
> > > > > > thing the OGC Board would want to attend. The OGC guys aren't
> > > > >
> > > > > registered
> > > > > > at the conference generally (their meeting is separate on the
> > > > >
> > > > > Thursday)
> > > > > > and so they'd have to buy ice breaker tickets (as would you guys).
> > > > >
> > > > > There
> > > > > > was also some suggestion of a half-way house of a drinks reception
> > > > >
> > > > > for the
> > > > > > two (or three including AGI) groups.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the end I'm pretty neutral about this. It seems to me that for
> > > > > a formal
> > > > > > "meeting of minds" such as this it does really need to be done in
> > > > >
> > > > > a more
> > > > > > private space than the ice breaker to allow discussion to properly
> > > > >
> > > > > happen.
> > > > > > The aim isn't just to party together is it? This seems to be the
> > > > >
> > > > > sort of
> > > > > > thing that board members of organisations are there for, for
> > > > >
> > > > > diplomatic
> > > > > > talks with other organisations. It may therefore be something that
> > > > >
> > > > > one or
> > > > > > both organisations or else their representative members have to
> > > > >
> > > > > stump up
> > > > > > for - we may be able to find a cheaper menu if that's the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still, that's just my view. The bottom line is that the EMCC
> > > > > event
> > > > > > manager and I are running through all the bookings to confirm
> > > > >
> > > > > orders on
> > > > > > Monday morning (British Summer Time) and I'll need to know by then
> > > > >
> > > > > what
> > > > > > the confirmed plan is. At present I will stick with the meal plan
> > > > >
> > > > > unless
> > > > > > told explicitly not to go ahead. I also need to have a reasonably
> > > > >
> > > > > good
> > > > > > handle on the numbers attending too, please.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With regards, thanks, and some trepidation at the nearness of it
> > > > > all,
> > > > > > Jeremy
> > > > >
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