[Board] [OSGeo-Conf] Fwd: Re: 2015 North American conference

Andrew Ross andrew.ross at eclipse.org
Mon Apr 28 08:32:15 PDT 2014


Hi Eli,

Thank you for the thoughts.

Stating the obvious, 2015 is an event and related but decoupled from 
future events.

I'm happy to participate in an open dialogue brainstorming for future 
events.

For what it's worth, I agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense to host 
a regional FOSS4G & Global FOSS4G in the same region in the same year. 
Just my opinion, but ideally they are one and the same that year.

IMHO, people have come to expect the Global event in the fall so that's 
pretty important. Spring could work well too, but would need to be 
planned well in advance so people know and it could avoid conflicting 
events.

If you don't mind sharing, what kinds of things do you have in mind for 
benefits & things to look out for?

Kind regards,

Andrew

On 22/04/14 23:30, Eli Adam wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Thanks for interest in co-hosting FOSS4G-NA with other conferences and 
> planning ahead.
>
> I think that there could be benefits to joint organizing.
>
> FOSS4G-NA takes every third year off to leave plenty of space for the 
> international FOSS4G when in North America. What would be the plan for 
> those years in a merged scenario?  Merge with the international 
> conference?  In fall or spring?  Continue on with a spring date to be 
> a different time of year and have two that year?  Other?
>
> There are benefits worth pursuing.
>
> Best Regards and see you in PDX, Eli
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) <seven at arnulf.us 
> <mailto:seven at arnulf.us>> wrote:
>
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>     ...forwarding to Local Chapters.
>
>     What Daniel proposes here is a kind of meta Local Chapters community,
>     not quite regional but also not global. My hopes are that it will
>     manifest as we go simply because we need it and people attach to the
>     idea. For a start I believe it would be helpful to continue the dialog
>     on this list because it is (supposed to be) the meta level meeting
>     place for local chaps.
>
>     There is no imminent problem and there is certainly no strategy but in
>     the long run we will want to have some communication *before* things
>     happen, especially if they affect a broader slate of the community.
>
>     If you are interested in global FOSS4G topics I suggest you
>     additionally subscribe to this list:
>     conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>
>
>     Have fun,
>     Arnulf
>
>     - -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [Board]  2015 North American conference
>     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:33:11 -0400
>     From: Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com
>     <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>>
>     To: board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>
>     CC: OSGEO discuss <discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>>, conference
>     <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>>,
>     location-iwg at locationtech.org <mailto:location-iwg at locationtech.org>
>
>     Hi Everyone,
>
>     FYI, at the Vienna Sprint two weeks ago, we had a similar discussion
>     about the (lack of) decision process for the location of
>     FOSS4G-Europe.
>     The people involved in the discussion included past FOSS4G and
>     FOSS4G-CEE organizers, some key members of the EU community and a few
>     board members, and the conclusion on the question of the decision
>     process was that OSGeo (the international body) and its conference
>     committee were not the right people to make the decision on the
>     FOSS4G-Europe location, and it was proposed to invite all local
>     chapters
>     in Europe to appoint one rep to a FOSS4G-EU conference committee that
>     would make the decision on the location of the event. The creation of
>     this FOSS4G-EU committee should be discussed on the local-chapters
>     list
>     at some point.
>
>     I am reporting this here because the same could possibly apply to
>     FOSS4G-NA: the global OSGeo may not be the best entity to decide
>     on the
>     location of FOSS4G-NA and maybe we should defer to reps of the local
>     chapters in the region?
>
>     Let's keep this in mind when we discuss this in the board meeting.
>
>     BTW, if there is only one candidate for FOSS4G-NA 2015 then there
>     is no
>     need for a formal decision process and we should keep things
>     simple, but
>     sooner or later the need will arise.
>
>     Daniel
>
>
>     On 14-04-07 1:59 PM, Andrew Ross wrote:
>     > Bart,
>     >
>     > Sure, I can make that time and I'm glad to have a dialogue about
>     > it. Thanks for suggesting.
>     >
>     > Kind regards,
>     >
>     > Andrew
>     >
>     > On 07/04/14 13:31, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>     >> Hey Andrew,
>     >>
>     >> we have a board meeting this Thursday so maybe we can discuss it
>     >> there as well given this is urgent?
>     >>
>     >> I'll add it to the agenda, would you be available on IRC for any
>     >> questions?
>     >>
>     >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-04-10
>     >>
>     >> Best regards, Bart
>     >>
>     >> On 07 Apr 2014, at 19:04, Andrew Ross <andrew.ross at eclipse.org
>     <mailto:andrew.ross at eclipse.org>
>     >> <mailto:andrew.ross at eclipse.org
>     <mailto:andrew.ross at eclipse.org>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Hi Everyone,
>     >>>
>     >>> For those that might be interested in participating in this &
>     >>> especially up front in terms of outreach & helping sort out
>     >>> details to tune the idea so it works well, please contact me.
>     >>> Thank you very much to those that have already.
>     >>>
>     >>> Some important decisions require immediate attention such as
>     >>> which city, what dates, and so forth.
>     >>>
>     >>> Some possible cities suggested by people, for 2015, include:
>     >>> D.C., San Francisco, Boston, San Diego
>     >>>
>     >>> In terms of dates, late March or early April would be offset
>     >>> from the global FOSS4G & also from other very busy periods in
>     >>> the calendar. It lines up with EclipseCon, which co-hosting
>     >>> helps reduce organizing burden. For what it's worth, the
>     >>> overall conference would not be called EclipseCon to appeal to
>     >>> all constituents.
>     >>>
>     >>> Thoughts?
>     >>>
>     >>> Thanks again,
>     >>>
>     >>> Andrew
>     >>>
>     >>> On 04/04/14 17:02, Andrew Ross wrote:
>     >>>> Hello Everyone,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Please excuse the cross post between OSGeo's discuss &
>     >>>> conference_dev lists as well as LocationTech's discussion
>     >>>> list. I'm hoping to enable inclusive discussion about an
>     >>>> idea.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Bit of background, this coming May (19-21), LocationTech
>     >>>> Summit is co-hosted with Location Intelligence in Washington
>     >>>> D.C. <http://www.locationintelligence.net/>. Travel
>     >>>> restrictions for Federal Government employees for instance
>     >>>> meant holding this in D.C. was important in 2014.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> We have started planning for 2015, and I wanted to reach out
>     >>>> and see if an idea might be of interest to the greater
>     >>>> community.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> The idea is to co-host LocationTech Summit, FOSS4G North
>     >>>> America, and EclipseCon next year in the spring.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> For those that haven't been:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> * EclipseCon is a great  developer conference & covers topics
>     >>>> that I feel may be a really nice complement such as Science,
>     >>>> Internet of Things, Automotive, Software development best
>     >>>> practice, and more. While there are some awesome talks in the
>     >>>> area, it's not just about the IDE. :-) * FOSS4G NA is the
>     >>>> regional sibling of FOSS4G Global, also a great developer
>     >>>> conference, and focused on geospatial technologies. It is a
>     >>>> must attend event if you're into web mapping or looking for
>     >>>> open source GIS solutions. * LocationTech Summit is new
>     >>>> (first one this May), similar to FOSS4G however perhaps has a
>     >>>> stronger focus on high performance geoprocessing technologies
>     >>>> and new technologies like GeoGit for instance. * My feeble
>     >>>> attempt at contrast aside, I think these last two will see a
>     >>>> lot of the same speakers & audience.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> A few thoughts:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> * We believe a combined event could likely be done to
>     >>>> prioritize camaraderie which is so important for open source
>     >>>> projects & community. i.e. avoid anyone feeling lost in a
>     >>>> huge event. * We feel the mutual outreach to people across
>     >>>> communities would be really useful, interesting, and spark
>     >>>> wonderful ideas we can't predict. * The logistical work can
>     >>>> be done by full time conference organizers who organize
>     >>>> EclipseCon each year. The program is up to the communities to
>     >>>> set. * For those seeking suppliers, partners, & customers,
>     >>>> this should make for more opportunities. * Profit sharing
>     >>>> with significant participating groups is doable. We're glad
>     >>>> to help figure out a fair and amicable solution. * Ensuring
>     >>>> each group are well served is a priority of course. We think
>     >>>> this combined event might attract people who might not
>     >>>> otherwise come to any of them. But we'll have to try and
>     >>>> see.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Is this a good idea?
>     >>>> Interested?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Kind regards,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Andrew
>     >>>>
>     >>>
>     >
>     >
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