[Board] resignation
Andrew Ross
andrew.ross at eclipse.org
Mon Sep 15 13:17:57 PDT 2014
Jeff,
Perhaps you might like to apologize?
What you have written is very derogatory, FUD-laden, and extremely
unprofessional. And it's completely uncalled for. Give me a break!
Andrew
On 15/09/14 13:17, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> Bart, what if you stay on the Board, and I go away, for good? This
> way the merge can happen, and big business is happy. I can't fight
> with LocationTech lawyers, their big pockets...I realized this on the
> plane home, it's a fight I cannot win. If the little guy with the
> massive FOSS4G spirit could win, I would; but reality, reality (damn)
> is that this world needs money, business, funding, all that stuff I'm
> not good at.
>
> This week I saw things I thought I would never see in this community:
> talking behind backs, 'so and so said this', picking events to go
> to....it was dirty dirty dirty. THAT isn't what FOSS4G is supposed to
> be about (no disrespect meant to the 2014 loc, which held an amazing
> event, or LocationTech which did nothing wrong). I saw friends turn
> on friends. I saw fear. I even saw tears (yes i had tears in my eyes
> on saturday, but i tried to hide them...i bet Gerald noticed them in
> my eyes only during the meeting).
>
> It all saddens me deeply.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-09-15 4:05 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>> Hi Bart,
>>
>> I never closed any discussion with LocationTech, I did not run away from
>> sitting down with Andrew, and even on the Discuss list we are all
>> talking; I feel, this is all what must happen, talking, this all helps.
>> I ended up donating all of my Saturday to this, (and well, looks like
>> all of my today to this)...because it is ultra important.
>>
>> This is a sad day. I have been sad ever since the Board meeting ended.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-09-15 3:58 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> you just wrote: "I do have a problem however with pointing out
>>> problems with OSGeo and our baby, FOSS4G; instead of pointing out
>>> problems, I feel those same people could be diving into helping OSGeo
>>> grow and pick up the ball themselves.”
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I don’t have the energy to pick up the balls.
>>>
>>> Also, the e-mail by you and Venka over the weekend sounded to me like
>>> we’re already closing down the LocationTech discussion before it even
>>> really started: "Let’s take a few steps back and have a booth at each
>>> other’s conference.”. This does not really encourage any further
>>> actions to be honest.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I just don’t have the energy to fight anymore to make changes,
>>> sorry.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> On 15 Sep 2014, at 20:48, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bart,
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand why you feel that we cannot tackle issues. I
>>>> personally make a point to do so (we met with Andrew on Saturday for
>>>> this reason, donating must of our Saturday for that). However you
>>>> are referring to public emails? I feel we are just now opening up
>>>> and discussing what it at the core of the issues (in today's email
>>>> thread, done super publicly on the Discuss list). How do you feel
>>>> that we are avoiding the topic?
>>>>
>>>> Avoiding would be not attending the meeting with Andrew, or not
>>>> responding on any thread in a mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> Can you explain how we (of if you mean myself) avoids issues in the
>>>> public? Should I have rather not responded in the public thread, in
>>>> your opinion? If we don't discuss it on the Discuss list, where else
>>>> would we do it?
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-09-15 3:35 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>>>> Hello board,
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m resigning from the board of directors, mostly because, if I’m
>>>>> honest with myself, this has been mostly a frustrating experience
>>>>> for me, sadly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot function in an organisation where things / issues cannot be
>>>>> put on the table publicly and get discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’d rather see someone else take up the spot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish you all the best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Bart
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