[Board] [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding slang. Was: Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input)

Thu Apr 9 05:58:09 PDT 2015

OSGeo Board,
Re the "Diversity" item on the agenda for the next meeting, I thought I 
should give an update.

As below, it seems that the most recent CoC from Apache looks to be an 
improvement on the many before it. (It includes a CoC and Diversity 
statement), and I suggest that an OSGeo CoC/Diversity Statement is based 
upon the Apache one.

I've taken a first draft at such a document here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct

It could do with a review.

Note, I've also listed a number of other CoC/Diversity statements in 
this wiki, along with pros and cons for each (the page is now getting a 
bit big).

Regards,
Cameron

On 3/04/2015 10:06 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> I've been reading a lot of CoC statements over the last few days, and 
> can see how there has been a continual refinement with each new 
> version over time.
>
> 2010: Geek Feminism Anti Harassment Policy, 
> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment_policy
>
> 2012: JSConf Code of Conduct, http://jsconf.com/codeofconduct.html
>
> 2012: O'Reilly Code of Conduct, 
> http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html
>
> April 2014: Debian Code of Conduct, 
> https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct
>
> Dec 2014: Apache CoC, 
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>
> I like the Apache CoC, which is well written, and refines and extends 
> the best of prior CoCs.
>
> My thoughts are now moving toward adopting a CoC based on this Apache 
> CoC.
>
> On 3/04/2015 5:38 pm, Eli Adam wrote:
>>> With so many variants on the CoC/Diversity Statement, it would be 
>>> great if a
>>> international standard could be created, such as done for Open Source
>>> Licenses.
>> I think that there are a few CoC consolidation efforts like that
>> currently, here is one [4] and another [5] that reference the first.
>> I can't find all the links right now but recall them from the past.
>> There was some OSM work to make one specific to mailing lists [6].
>> Here are a handful of additional CoCs too [7], [8], [9], [10].
>>
>> CoC is inherently different than licenses.  Licenses have
>> compatibility issues and there are strong forces which promote
>> well-known compatible licenses.  Various companies have lawyers review
>> licenses for compatibility too.  There is no concept of compatibility
>> in CoC, nor are diverse legal resources dedicated to it.  So CoC is a
>> realm (unlike licenses) where everyone can have their just slightly
>> different CoC without causing incompatibility.  Despite the
>> variability, all strive to promote a safe, productive, functioning
>> community for all.
>>
>> Eli
>>
>>
>> [4] http://citizencodeofconduct.org/
>> [5] http://www.rust-lang.org/conduct.html
>> [6] 
>> https://github.com/osmlab/codes-of-conduct/blob/master/mailing_lists/code_of_conduct.md
>> [7] https://github.com/codeforamerica/codeofconduct
>> [8] https://github.com/twitter/code-of-conduct
>> [9] https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct
>> [10] https://github.com/selenamarie/conference_policies (list of
>> others, mostly ~2012)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct
>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Debian_Code_of_Conduct
>>> [3]
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Geek_Feminism_Template_Anti_Harassment_Policy 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31/03/2015 5:40 pm, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I agree. Diversity also refers to language. We have to start 
>>> reason on
>>> that as a richness and not as a barrier. I like to have this item in 
>>> the
>>> CoC.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best.
>>>
>>> Maria
>>>
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>>> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding 
>>> slang. Was:
>>> Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input)
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My experience within OSGeo was positive so far. At FOSS4G, sometimes 
>>> people
>>> forget, that half of the crowd speaks English only occasionally, 
>>> which can
>>> lead to misunderstandings.
>>>
>>> Anyway: I would like to point out, that it is not only matter of 
>>> writing,
>>> but also talking (at foss4gs, sprints, ...) In public but also in 
>>> private,
>>> what can be even harder than writing (you can not take your time to 
>>> figure
>>> out the best way how to express, what you need).
>>>
>>> And yes, having something like that in CoC would be nice.
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015, 22:00 Andrea Aime <andrea.aime at geo-solutions.it>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Cameron Shorter 
>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks all for the feedback.
>>> So my question is:
>>> 1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement mention that we 
>>> have a
>>> multilingual community?
>>>
>>> I believe it's still a good idea.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. What should we recommend that all, and especially native speakers 
>>> do to
>>> make our community welcoming to non-native speakers?
>>>
>>> I'd suggest, just a reminder that the level of written English can 
>>> vary a
>>> lot, ranging from cases where the lack of fluency is
>>>
>>> evident, to cases where the sentence seems just too direct/rude, so
>>> generally speaking, it's a good idea to try and be patient
>>>
>>> and understanding.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I wish there was a guide of typical expectations/orientations
>>> varying culture by culture, to try
>>>
>>> and understand better where people are coming from and put what they 
>>> say in
>>> context (this example
>>>
>>>   might be wrong or just a silly generalizations, but just to give 
>>> you an
>>> idea, I've heard
>>>
>>> Japanese normally won't say no in a conversation, you have to figure 
>>> it out,
>>> and other cultures surely
>>>
>>> have their "surprising" traits as well).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
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