[Board] MoU with Korea's Land & Housing Corp (LH Corp)

[Suchith Anand]

+ 1 to Jeff's ideas on MoUs in general.  The time spend on building collaborations with other communities/organisations is vital for building synergies and expansion of OSGeo. We should not think of it as "overhead" . It is  time invested for future expansion.

The MoUs with ICA, OGC etc shows the benefits. As Jeff rightly pointed out there is a provision for renewal/updates if needed in all MoUs and that is good to have. We have a structure/template in place for MoUs (ICA, OGC ) etc which can be extended.

In my humble opinion, the main criteria to think about is how each MoU will benefit OSGeo and which is the organisation we are looking to have MoU with (their credibility etc). We should be strategic and have only Global and National level MoUs at OSGeo level. It is for the OSGeo Board members to decide which MoUs should be taken up , its benefits  to OSGeo etc after  discussions. 

Suchith

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From: board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Jeff McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [Board] MoU with Korea's Land & Housing Corp (LH Corp)

I believe the only MoU to be renewed since OSGeo began is the ICA MoU.
But that is a good example: the "overhead" you speak of was Helena
grabbing Georg and I during a break in the sessions of FOSS4G-Como and I
opened my laptop right there in the hallway and Georg and I edited the
wiki page.  From that 10 minutes, Georg has taken that news and
announced it during their Brazil event and I will do the same in Seoul.
  It was 10 minutes well spent.

I don't use the word "one-off" when it comes to the foundation or
community.  It does nothing to credit the U of Amsterdam, and the
exchange that I had with Jan Hartmann.  Would I take time out of my day
to tackle Jan's document so fast for no benefit to the community?  Even
that brief exchange with Jan is worth a lot in the long run.  You can
see it as a one-off, I do not.

So the OSGeo foundation should focus not on building these
relationships?  Obviously not.  This is our lifeline.

Hundreds will come to Seoul, have a great time, and return home, but it
is seeds that we plant like a simple agreement, a 10 minute meeting in
the hallway and a shaking of the hands, that help things grow locally.
Especially in Asia, they will respect us for taking the time to meet, to
listen, and they will remember that meeting for a long time.

Might we actually renew this agreement someday? Sure, possibly.  But I
don't see that as overhead at all.

Yours,

-jeff












On 2015-08-28 5:03 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
> That was a one-off and not a MoU that has to be revised yearly (more overhead).
>
> Bart
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 28 aug. 2015, at 21:48, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>>
>> Regarding national-level support by OSGeo versus global support, the best example (as I've been reminded off-list) is the recent official support for the University of Amsterdam, requested by Bart in April and approved by the OSGeo Board.  This is a great example of the importance of OSGeo supporting local movements.
>>
>> We definitely could have dealt with that request at the local chapter level, but having the OSGeo foundation support it is more powerful, more visible and makes more of an impact, which is obviously why Bart brought that to the Board level.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2015-08-28 3:04 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>> Hey Jeff,
>>>
>>> just wondering here if MoU's at national levels make sense for OSGeo. This can become very unmanageable quickly IMHO.
>>>
>>> Maybe just have local chapters deal with this level and have OSGeo deal with MoU's at the global level only?
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 28 aug. 2015, at 19:57, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Board,
>>>>
>>>> This is to let you know that initial work is happening offline, with Sanghee's help, for an MoU with Korea's big housing corporation, "LH Corp".  The MoU draft is here http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_LH_Corporation
>>>>
>>>> The goal is to meet during FOSS4G-Seoul to finalize that.  Then, after Seoul event, to bring this to the OSGeo Board for approval.
>>>>
>>>> Some background on LH Corp (Sanghee's words):
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>> LH Corp is one of the largest public companies in Korea providing land and housing for public purpose. They are owned and controlled by the Korean government. They’ve played a large role in the development of many geospatial systems in Korea as well.
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> Edits to that draft are welcomed (you don't need to ask for approval).
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
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