[Board] Recognizing monetary contributions by Local Chapters

Venkatesh Raghavan raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp
Mon Dec 14 17:09:01 PST 2015 

On 12/14/2015 5:53 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
> I don't have clear idea on this and I feel I need more discussion and
> toughs.
>
> a spur of the moment comment:
> - I like the option to recognize particularly active local chapter (but not
> limiting it to monetary contribution)
Yes, not limiting to monetary contribution. I mentioned monetary 
contribution because
OSGeo Sponsorship entails monetary contribution [1] and some Local 
Chapters, apart
from their very active role in promoting/strengthening OSGeo Global 
Foundation, have
also made a sizable monetary contribution.

Since these chapters fulfill the sponsorship criteria, there could be 
some "official"
recognition thereof.
> - I don't like the idea of funding local chapter without a specific "goal"
> or "mission" (then a specific request to the board)
+1 to that. In the earlier case above, the "goal/mission" was the successful
conduct of the OSGeo hosted FOSS4G Global Conference.

Anyway, this topic could be discussed further at the f2f in Jan. 2016, I 
think.

Best
Venka

[1] http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship
>
>
> Maxi
>
> 2015-12-14 9:17 GMT+01:00 Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>:
>
>> Let add them to an amazing page for local chapters!
>>
>> (See goal of involving external organizations with OSGeo - sponsorship is
>> just one idea)
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 14 December 2015 at 00:14, Sanghee Shin <shshin at gaia3d.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2015. 12. 14., 오후 5:03, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> 작성:
>>>
>>>
>>> I would hate to have any organizing committee feel bad if their
>>> conference did not return a profit - the primary goal of FOSS4g is outreach
>>> rather than fundraising.
>>>
>>>
>>> Great point Jody!!
>>>
>>> However we can add local chapters which run previous FOSS4G to the
>>> lifetime sponsors list, not because of their monetary contribution to OSGeo
>>> but because of their volunteering great work!
>>>
>>>
>>> To make this very real, recognizing the Korean local chapter with
>>> "lifetime silver sponsorship" based on FOSS4G profit would do a bit of
>>> injustice in skipping over acknowledging organizations that sponsored the
>>> event directly, or I suppose those who paid conference fees to attend. Such
>>> events are on a different scale then sponsorship, and would be discouraging
>>> for a small consulting shop (like how2map.com) that could never register
>>> against the dollar amounts involved.
>>>
>>> Still I suspect that Venka's would like to provide greater recognition to
>>> Korea and others that have done such amazing work. Perhaps after revamping
>>> our sponsors page we could work on
>>> http://www.osgeo.org/content/chapters/index.html to better showcase
>>> local chapters (think logos, events, accomplishments) to better illustrate
>>> participation in our diverse community.
>>>
>>> I know Cameron has often asked me (whenever we have an email thread about
>>> sponsorship) what kind of foundation we are expecting to build. I would
>>> like to remain focused on our low cost organization structure, but be in
>>> position to use any resources made available to us as a multiplier on our
>>> volunteer labour.
>>> --
>>> Jody
>>>
>>> On 13 December 2015 at 21:24, Sanghee Shin <shshin at gaia3d.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I think both Venka’s & Jody’s idea make sense. Venka’s idea could give
>>>> OSGeo Foundation another opportunity to acknowledge and honour local
>>>> chapter for its efforts and contribution for the FOSS4G officially.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> 신상희
>>>> ---
>>>> Shin, Sanghee
>>>> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
>>>> http://www.gaia3d.com
>>>>
>>>>> 2015. 12. 14., 오전 8:30, Venkatesh Raghavan <
>>>> raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> 작성:
>>>>> My  suggestion is not about sponsoring local chapters (they can
>>>>> find their own sponsors).
>>>>>
>>>>> The suggestions was about OSGeo Foundation recognizing of some
>>>>> Local Chapters as sponsors of the OSGeo (global) Foundation.
>>>>>
>>>>> By "some" chapters, I mean the chapters that are "official" and that
>>>> have made
>>>>> monetary contribution to the OSGeo Foundation (just as
>>>>> the Koeran Local Chapter recently did as well as other
>>>>> Local Chapters did before through contribution of profits
>>>>> from the FOSS4G (Global) conferences).
>>>>>
>>>>> Venka
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015/12/14 7:28, Michael Smith wrote:
>>>>>> I like this approach a lot more personally. I think we should do all
>>>> that we can to support local chapters.
>>>>>> As for the finance part, we have no financial connection to local
>>>> chapters. We don't manage any finances except for the main foundation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Smith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I like the way you are thinking - thank you for starting the
>>>> discussion.I have an alternate suggestion...
>>>>>>> I would not mind flipping this the other direction, if you check our
>>>> updated how to sponsor OSGeo page, you can see incentives for prior
>>>> sponsors and sporing OSGeo events. If we want we can add "sponsoring local
>>>> chapters" to the list.
>>>>>>> Where does this ideas come from? One item of feedback I got when
>>>> reaching out to sponsors was that they were already sponsoring local
>>>> chapters and it would be nice if this could also be recognized as
>>>> contributing to OSGeo.
>>>>>>> Before everyone agrees this makes sense / is obvious / etc... there
>>>> is a reason why I was shaky in answering. Although sponsoring a local
>>>> chapter is in keeping with our mandate - it does not interact directly with
>>>> the Foundation's back account the same way sponsoring a local/global event
>>>> does.
>>>>>>> As such it is a matter to discuss on the board list here... and
>>>> perhaps ask our treasure how finances for local chapters are managed?
>>>>>>> So the alternate suggestion is to highlight local chapters as a
>>>> prime example of *participation*, and set up policies so that sponsors are
>>>> recognized for engaging with local chapters. Note this policy change steers
>>>> OSGeo in a more decentralized, and should be considered a strategic
>>>> direction by the board - rather than just in isolation.
>>>>>>> (As a board member I like this strategy, but would like to see
>>>> consensus before pursuing it. I also want to recognize the caution Micheal
>>>> Smith expressed in the IRC meeting)
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jody
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 5:42 PM Venkatesh Raghavan <
>>>> raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I brought up the topic of *requesting* Sponsorship from "official"
>>>> Local
>>>>>>>> Chapters at the last Board meeting. While it may be difficult to
>>>> make such
>>>>>>>> sponsorship mandatory, it would be good to recognize monetary
>>>> sponsorship
>>>>>>>> for Local Chapters as equivalent to sponsoring OSGeo foundation at
>>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to propose that the recent contribution (profits for
>>>> FOSS4G
>>>>>>>> 2015)
>>>>>>>> by the Korean Local Chapter be recognized as equivalent to life time
>>>>>>>> sponsorship
>>>>>>>> at Silver Leval [1]. Earlier contributions of other local chapters
>>>> (e.g
>>>>>>>> PDX etc.) could
>>>>>>>> be similarly recognized.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doing so could serve two purposes. Firstly, we will see the
>>>> sponsorship
>>>>>>>> page more
>>>>>>>> densely populated. Secondly, it may prompt other local chapters to
>>>> make
>>>>>>>> voluntary
>>>>>>>> contributions to keep our Foundation running.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Venka
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>> 신상희
>>> ---
>>> Shin, Sanghee
>>> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
>>> http://www.gaia3d.com
>>>
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