[Board] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the “LAZ clone” by ESRI

[Cameron Shorter]

Patrick, others,
OSGeo and related OGC communities have been successful previously in 
stopping ESRI's inappropriate creation of OGC standards. See here: 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API

I'd suggest that if we as OSGeo wish to be effective at blocking a 
vendor lock-in tactic, as seems to be the case, then we should consider 
developing a similar wiki page for the LAS format debate.

0. Write an open letter (who to? OGC?)
1. Describe the issue. (Is there someone who knows the issues well 
enough to describe them?)
2. Describe technically why one format is or is not better than the 
other, on both a technical and commercial point of view.
3. Is the Open LIDAR format an OGC standard?
4. If needed, collect signatures.
5. If needed, ask OSGeo Board to present the open letter

On 28/02/2015 11:18 am, P Kishor wrote:
> Thanks Patrick for surfacing this. Yes, this should be opened up for 
> scrutiny by the entire community and we should all weigh in.
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Suchith Anand 
> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Patrick,
>
>     Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I believe the OSGeo
>     Board need to look into this and prepare a position paper with
>     inputs from the community as this has wider implications. This
>     also need to be discussed with like minded organisations. We all
>     can provide the needed support for this.
>
>     Jeff and OSGeo Board - please add this to the next month Board
>     meeting's  agenda items. Thanks.
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>     Suchith
>
>
>     ________________________________________
>     From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>     [ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Lene
>     Fischer [lfi at ign.ku.dk <mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk>]
>     Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:29 PM
>     To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the
>     “LAZ clone” by ESRI
>
>     +1
>
>
>     Lene Fischer
>     Associate Professor
>
>     Department of Geosciences and Natural Resource Management
>     University of Copenhagen
>
>     MOB +45 40115084 <tel:%2B45%2040115084>
>     lfi at ign.ku.dk <mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk><mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk
>     <mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk>>
>
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>
>     Fra: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>     [mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] På vegne af
>     Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>     Sendt: 27. februar 2015 18:48
>     Til: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
>     Emne: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the “LAZ
>     clone” by ESRI
>
>     Dear OSGEO,
>     For what our good name is worth. . .
>     Do we have an opinion on something so essential as an open
>     standard for a data format?
>     Speak now, or forever hand over your wallet. Individual and
>     collective response encouraged.
>
>     Can OSGEO provide a short position paper commenting on our values?
>     I.e., “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all [data]
>     are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
>     certain unalienable Rights, that among these [is Life, Liberty and
>     the pursuit of Openness].”
>
>     The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the “LAZ clone” by ESRI
>     http://rapidlasso.com/2015/02/22/lidar-las-asprs-esri-and-the-laz-clone/
>
>     [First paragraph]
>     We are concerned about ESRI’s next moves in forcing yet another
>     proprietary format into wide-spread deployment. Forwarded emails,
>     retold conversations, and personal experiences suggest that sneaky
>     tactics<http://rapidlasso.com/2014/11/06/keeping-esri-honest/> are
>     being used to disrupt the harmony in open LiDAR formats that we
>     have enjoyed for many years.
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>
>     Thanks much,
>     -Patrick
>
>     Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov
>     <mailto:Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov><mailto:Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov
>     <mailto:Patrick.Hogan at nasa.gov>>
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