[Board] Responding to emails

Tue May 5 16:26:32 PDT 2015

Ok thanks Cameron.

In general, the OSGeo community has never been so active; I've never 
seen so many challenging topics on Board agenda meetings, brought by so 
many strong leaders of our community, to the Board for discussion.  It 
is sure hard to stay on top of things, I (as all Board members) try my 
hardest to stay on top of things.  As I refer to it now to my own 
family: "for the love of the game".

I imagine you'll notice (if you choose and are elected to the Board 
again) a change in the topics brought to the Board.  This is a strong, 
confident, mature community, and part of our maturity as a foundation is 
this next stage of challenging topics: standards, certification, bylaws, 
policies, bids, relationships, ecosystems, foundations....I can go on.

Like you, I am sometimes frustrated by the 'process'  (if I was a 
dictator, the simple Diversity Statement I proposed to the Board, well I 
would have logged into osgeo.org and added a new content page months 
ago).  I realize I cannot do that, so we must continue down the process 
for things to happen (and often it is silence).

But don't get me wrong, my passion is served best on the Board, as the 
President, and I devote much of my life to this, happily. :)

Anyway, I'm rambling.

I am sorry for, letting my passion, as usual, creep into my responses. 
We both mean well.  Here's to Open Geospatial. (clang of drinking mugs)

Good night all.

-jeff

On 2015-05-05 7:05 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Jeff,
> Thanks for the suggestion re joining the board. It is not something I
> take on lightly. I'll think about it. I'm hopeful OSGeo community
> members can be close to equally effective, whether on the board or not.
>
> Re my personal time spent on OSGeo activities, I haven't noticed much of
> a difference over the years, whether that be while serving on the board
> or not. Maybe it appears differently. We wrote the GeoServices REST Open
> Letter, (in a similar vein to to the current LIDAR debate) while I was a
> board member.
>
> Kind regards, Cameron
>
> On 6/05/2015 7:01 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>> Cameron, maybe we can spin this a different way: I do note that you
>> are very active now in OSGeo, and you have a keen interest to engage
>> the OSGeo Board; I also note that you were not very active while you
>> sat on the OSGeo Board.  I feel your frustration sometimes where you
>> want to engage Board members more, or push or lead things for OSGeo.
>> Well, that gives me an idea....
>>
>> As I've been doing recently for other active community members, as
>> we're approaching time to think of elections, I would like to suggest
>> that you consider a position on the OSGeo Board.  It would allow you
>> all the time you require to push things for the community, lead, and
>> communicate with everyone that you need to (as well as represent the
>> entire community with the Board hat on when you feel that is needed).
>> And also of note is that the Board is very global now, and we can
>> definitely accommodate different timeslots and meeting locations much
>> easier.
>>
>> I think it would be a great fit now.  We can also use your passion for
>> our news items and releases.
>>
>> Short story: if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-05-05 5:43 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> Jeff, OSGeo Board,
>>> I'm finding it difficult to engage effectively with the OSGeo Board in a
>>> timely manner and am looking for suggestions on how to improve that.
>>>
>>> Is the OSGeo-Board email list still the best forum to discuss ideas?
>>> Would it be easier if I wrote more concisely, and less often? (Try to
>>> increase signal-to-noise ratio)?
>>> Maybe limit to specific proposals: "I propose the OSGeo board support
>>> ..."?
>>> Maybe not ask as much of the OSGeo Board?
>>>
>>> I'm asking following on from discussion about the Open LIDAR Letter,
>>> which had significant discussion, across a number of email lists, as
>>> well as private discussions. I'm hoping we can learn and improve.
>>>
>>> Next, I'm hoping we can finalise an OSGeo Code of Conduct / Diversity
>>> Statement, and am interested to know whether board members want to be
>>> involved in this? I'm hoping that there is still sufficient energy to
>>> take this through to completion.
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity
>>>
>>> On 5/05/2015 9:57 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>> Hi Jeff, as per below, I note that you prefer to discuss emails in
>>>> public. I'm cool with that.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, I emailed yourself, CC public board list. I followed up
>>>> with a private reminder email as I thought you might have forgotten
>>>> the email, or lost it in an email folder somewhere. (I note you are
>>>> usually more responsive).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for responding with your thoughts. It helps to understand where
>>>> you are coming from rather than guessing to know if you have received
>>>> the email or not.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Cameron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/05/2015 8:36 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>> As you already know (from now years of seeing me in this position), I
>>>>> don't send official e-mails on behalf of the entire OSGeo foundation
>>>>> because of some offlist pings; I request that we discuss next steps
>>>>> (if any?) for the Board, or that you made a request to the OSGeo
>>>>> Board for next steps, and we can discuss openly.
>>>>>
>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-04-28 5:56 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>> Thanks for adding the cover letter to the LiDAR Open Letter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The second part of this motion was for the OSGeo President to
>>>>>> email the
>>>>>> letter to the OGC, ESRI and ASPRS. (Suggested email addresses are
>>>>>> toward
>>>>>> the bottom of this email thread).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you mind CCing a public archived email list (probably the board
>>>>>> list) so that we have an official record of the Open Letter being
>>>>>> delivered. (Alternatively, you can forward, or notify the list
>>>>>> instead).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully any response you receive will also be sent to the public
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>> If not, can you please ask if you can share the response publicly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Cameron
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter,
>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>>> LISAsoft
>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>>
>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com <http://www.lisasoft.com>,  F
>>>> +61 2 9009 5099
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cameron Shorter,
>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>> LISAsoft
>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>
>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  Wwww.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
>>>
>>