[Board] Responding to emails

[Jeff McKenna]

Regarding the comments that some OSGeo Board members purposely remain 
quiet: I'd remind all Board members to join discussions, share their 
opinions, even if it is a quick "+1" on a discussion.  We've all been 
voted here in this role to represent the community (or, think of a Board 
discussion as a ticket, an issue in Github {wait is that the future of 
the Board? it sure could be useful, if Board members prefer to tackle 
issues that way, and track them}.   Thanks for keeping this in mind 
everyone,

-jeff




On 2015-05-06 10:10 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification Bart. It sounds like we are both
> thinking the same way then.
>
> Cheers
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 2015-05-06 8:35 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>> Hey Daniel,
>>
>> I was not in any way saying that Cameron has not done most of these
>> already. Just wanted to briefly outline how I handle traffic on the
>> e-mail list.
>>
>> Personally I don’t feel that clear e-mails are disrespectful in any
>> way, I’d rather have people be clear on what they expect of us and
>> when. But that’s my 2 cents.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>>
>>> On 06 May 2015, at 14:22, Daniel Morissette
>>> <dmorissette at mapgears.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bart,
>>>
>>> While I fully agree with your recommendations in general, I don't
>>> think anyone can blame Cameron of not being clear in his
>>> communications. IMHO those recommendations were already applied in
>>> his emails and I don't think he can be much more explicit than he has
>>> been.
>>>
>>> Don't you think that if one adds even more explicit deadlines and
>>> action requests as you suggest then it will just increase the risk of
>>> being perceived as "disrespectful" of board volunteers time, to reuse
>>> the exact word that was used in this thread already?
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-05-06 7:08 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>> Thanks Bart, wise advise as always.
>>>> Cheers, Cameron.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/05/2015 4:40 pm, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>>>> Hey Cameron,
>>>>>
>>>>> my suggestions would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) make it really clear what your deadline is for responses (maybe
>>>>> also use e-mail priority or something very visible in the subject in
>>>>> case of urgency)
>>>>> 2) make it clear if you need the board to vote on something (you can
>>>>> ask one of us to raise a motion) or you just need an opinion /
>>>>> opinions
>>>>>
>>>>> In the case of opinions, I normally don’t respond to something a
>>>>> previous board member has said if I’m in general consent. If I
>>>>> disagree or have other points, I’ll chime in, but otherwise I’ll be
>>>>> silent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Bart
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05 May 2015, at 22:43, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff, OSGeo Board,
>>>>>> I'm finding it difficult to engage effectively with the OSGeo Board
>>>>>> in a timely manner and am looking for suggestions on how to
>>>>>> improve that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the OSGeo-Board email list still the best forum to discuss ideas?
>>>>>> Would it be easier if I wrote more concisely, and less often? (Try to
>>>>>> increase signal-to-noise ratio)?
>>>>>> Maybe limit to specific proposals: "I propose the OSGeo board support
>>>>>> ..."?
>>>>>> Maybe not ask as much of the OSGeo Board?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm asking following on from discussion about the Open LIDAR Letter,
>>>>>> which had significant discussion, across a number of email lists, as
>>>>>> well as private discussions. I'm hoping we can learn and improve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next, I'm hoping we can finalise an OSGeo Code of Conduct / Diversity
>>>>>> Statement, and am interested to know whether board members want to be
>>>>>> involved in this? I'm hoping that there is still sufficient energy to
>>>>>> take this through to completion.
>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/05/2015 9:57 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Jeff, as per below, I note that you prefer to discuss emails in
>>>>>>> public. I'm cool with that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this case, I emailed yourself, CC public board list. I followed
>>>>>>> up with a private reminder email as I thought you might have
>>>>>>> forgotten the email, or lost it in an email folder somewhere. (I
>>>>>>> note you are usually more responsive).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for responding with your thoughts. It helps to understand
>>>>>>> where you are coming from rather than guessing to know if you have
>>>>>>> received the email or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Cameron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/05/2015 8:36 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>>>> As you already know (from now years of seeing me in this position),
>>>>>>>> I don't send official e-mails on behalf of the entire OSGeo
>>>>>>>> foundation because of some offlist pings; I request that we discuss
>>>>>>>> next steps (if any?) for the Board, or that you made a request to
>>>>>>>> the OSGeo Board for next steps, and we can discuss openly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-28 5:56 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding the cover letter to the LiDAR Open Letter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The second part of this motion was for the OSGeo President to
>>>>>>>>> email the
>>>>>>>>> letter to the OGC, ESRI and ASPRS. (Suggested email addresses are
>>>>>>>>> toward
>>>>>>>>> the bottom of this email thread).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would you mind CCing a public archived email list (probably the
>>>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>>>> list) so that we have an official record of the Open Letter being
>>>>>>>>> delivered. (Alternatively, you can forward, or notify the list
>>>>>>>>> instead).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully any response you receive will also be sent to the public
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>> If not, can you please ask if you can share the response publicly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Cameron
>>>>>>> --