[Board] Motion: 2016 Financial Agreement

Massimiliano Cannata massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
Thu Sep 10 09:14:29 PDT 2015


Yes, Jeff my fault.
Last time the ODT was linked and I send my modification as attachment to
this list.
This time the link was PDF and I didn't notice the upper level folder has
the ODT also.

Maxi

2015-09-10 18:06 GMT+02:00 Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>:

> Maxi, the agreement draft is in SVN, where you committed to before, but in
> a different folder, see: foss4g/2016/financial_stuff/agreement_with_osgeo/
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
> On 2015-09-10 12:43 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>
>> -1
>> Maxi
>>
>> This new motion on a modified version of the agreement between OSGeo and
>> FOSSGIS do not find my agreement.
>>
>> Rational for my vote is:
>>
>> A) past events do not seems to have been guarantee, so this is not the
>> common practice adopted in the past but rather a strong change in OSGeo
>> policy
>>
>> B) I would make, as I have already proposed, the way around: no
>> guarantee but possible in future if approved by the board (not guarantee
>> and then some reserve to modify it)
>>
>> 1) The board has not been provided with sufficient information regarding
>> past events to evaluate the current request (I need to see a summary for
>> each past event of: seed money, guarantees, fee, total expenses, total
>>   income, profit, OSGeo revenue)
>>
>>   2) I don't think OSGeo should be exposed for more then 1 FOSS4G event
>> at the same time: it increase the risks and 1 year for event
>> organization I believe is enough. (Next time it could be 100k * 2)
>>
>> 3) The 2015 FOSS4G event relies on a USD 40,000 seed money which is also
>> the OSGeo guarantee. We know from past experiences that FOSS4G is more
>> risky when organized outside Europe or USA, nevertheless we didn't
>> provided such a guarantee in 2015, thus to be fair I don't think we
>> shall provide it now without a deep discussion.
>>
>> 4) Finally (this is more a my common sense evaluation) I don't think it
>> is raccomandable to take big budget decisions that may affect the coming
>> board members activities just one week before of the elections.
>>
>>
>> *I strongly believe that this decision, involving such a great amount of
>> money, should be postponed and submitted to the new board after the
>> elections and only having a clear vision of what was the procedure
>> followed in the past years. In fact, this decision will draw the line to
>> be followed in the future for every international FOSS4G events.*
>>
>>
>> Therefore I make a new motion: to provide 50,000 USD to Advance and NO
>> GUARANTEE exceeding the seed money as per below:
>>
>> (I cannot make direct changes in the document because only PDF has been
>> shared,  so I'm pasting here my proposal)
>>
>>
>> =====================================================================================================================================================
>>
>> *Agreement between OSGeo and FOSSGIS e.V. for finances to support FOSS4G
>> 2016 *
>>
>> *Parties*
>>
>>   * The Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) of 14525 SW Millikan
>>     #42523 Beaverton, OR 970052343 FOSSGIS e.V.,
>>   * the Local Organising Committee (LOC) of FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn, Germany
>>
>>
>> *Agreement *
>> 1.This agreement determines the financial arrangements between the LOC
>> and/or PCO and OSGeo.
>>    This agreement
>>      a. supersedes any other written or verbal agreement between OSGeo
>> and the LOC
>>      b. supersedes any other written or verbal agreement between LOC and
>> the PCO
>> 2. The LOC has requested an Advance to cover part of the anticipated
>> costs of hosting the FOSS4G event (see Schedule)
>>
>> *OSGeo commitments *
>> 4. OSGeo will provide the Advance detailed in the Schedule to the LOC on
>> request
>> 5. OSGeo agrees to underwrite potential losses of the Event up to the
>> maximum detailed in the Schedule
>> 6. OSGeo will delegate a financial representative to join the LOC
>> 7. OSGeo confirms that it will be possible to increase the OSGeo
>> guarantee by means of new amendment approved by the board
>>
>> *LOC commitments *
>>
>> 8. The LOC will hold all Event funds in a dedicated bank account and
>> will maintain a full record of all income and expenditure
>> 9. The Advance will be repaid to OSGeo by the LOC within 30 days of the
>> end of the Event
>> 10. The LOC will provide a monthly report of financial matters
>> (expenses, receipts and forecasts)
>>    a. The LOC will keep the OSGeo financial representative apprised of
>> any financial forecasts, alterations, commitments and risks
>>    b. The Financial representative shall have the right to request
>> changes to commitments and plans and as a last resort the right to
>> cancel this guarantee if recommendations are not accepted
>> 11. The LOC acknowledges that any financial liabilities in excess of the
>> maximum guarantee will be the responsibility of the LOC or will be
>> insured locally by the LOC
>> 12. The LOC will not pay to itself (or any of its individual members)
>> any fees for services provided with the exception of reasonable out of
>> pocket expenses for travel etc.
>> 13. The LOC agrees to remit at least 90% of any surplus generated to
>> OSGeo to support future events and other OSGeo activities
>>     a. A Surplus is defined as the net balance of revenues (delegates,
>> sponsors and any other sources) and expenses (venue, services, PCO etc)
>>
>> Schedule
>> LOC FOSSGIS e.V.
>> PCO FOSSGIS e.V.
>> Event details FOSS4G 2016, Bonn, Germany
>> Advance payment €50,000
>> Additional guarantee €0
>> Maximum total OSGeo financial exposure €50,000
>> %age of event profits returned to OSGeo 90%
>>
>> *Acceptance*
>> By their signatures below, the authorized official of each party to this
>> agreement represents that they are duly authorized to sign this
>> agreement and bind their respective organization.
>>
>> For The Open Source Geospatial Foundation:
>> For FOSSGIS e.V. Name :
>>
>>
>> =====================================================================================================================================================
>>
>>
>>>>
>> 2015-09-10 14:42 GMT+02:00 Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr
>> <mailto:gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>>:
>>
>>     +1
>>
>>
>>
>>      > Le 9 sept. 2015 à 18:34, Jeff McKenna
>>     <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
>>     <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>> a écrit :
>>
>>      >
>>      > Thanks Eli,
>>      >
>>      > This document is very well done by the Conference Committee, and
>>     can/will be used for each future FOSS4G event.
>>      >
>>      > Board: I've received word that Till needs to start signing and
>>     providing funds by the end of this week, so we have a real deadline
>>     here.  I would like to make sure that by the end of
>>     tomorrow/Thursday we wire the advance/seed money (50k euros) to
>>     their dedicated account.  This document has been approved by many
>>     keen eyes, a lot has went into it.  I therefore motion to the Board:
>>      >
>>      > ***
>>      > Motion to accept the terms of the financial agreement between
>>     FOSS4G e.V and the OSGeo foundation, per the terms in the document
>>     "Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016", to support FOSS4G
>>     2016. Per that document, the advance payment will be provided to
>>     FOSS4G e.V by 10 September 2015.
>>      > ***
>>      >
>>      > -jeff
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > On 2015-09-09 1:03 PM, Eli Adam wrote:
>>      >> Board of Directors,
>>      >>
>>      >> The Conference Committee (with input from Till and Board
>>     members) has
>>      >> refined and passed a proposed agreement for 2016 FOSS4G seed
>>     money and
>>      >> financial guarantee [0]. Here is a direct download [1] or view
>>     in svn
>>      >> [2].
>>      >>
>>      >> Please schedule discussion and voting so that FOSS4G 2016 can
>>     continue
>>      >> their preparations.  I've placed it on the next Board meeting
>> agenda
>>      >> [3] as a good place to keep track of it and take notes. However,
>> an
>>      >> email vote before then is needed.
>>      >>
>>      >>> From the Conference Committee, Steven and Cameron have worked to
>>      >> ensure that appropriate OSGeo funds are available over the needed
>>      >> durations.  They have also worked with Till to get an accurate
>> risk
>>      >> exposure estimate through the period of time leading up to
>> decision
>>      >> points.  Jeff and other Board members have also substantially
>>      >> contributed to this process.
>>      >>
>>      >> Thanks and best regards,
>>      >> Eli (on behalf of the Conference Committee)
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> [0] Discussion:
>>      >>
>>
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2015-September/003196.html
>>      >> [1]
>>
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/export/12525/foss4g/2016/financial_stuff/agreement_with_osgeo/Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016.pdf
>>      >> [2]
>>
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/foss4g/2016/financial_stuff/agreement_with_osgeo/Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016.pdf
>>      >> [3]
>>     http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-10-15#Current_items
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