[Board] Some issues occurred with one potential GSoC mentor(Warning: long email)
Brian M Hamlin
maplabs at light42.com
Fri Apr 1 07:20:59 PDT 2016
Dear Board Members, all --
this email concerns me. I am surprised at the amount of effort
here to spin this story.. I am available to answer any questions..
Default action is -- no action. Many people are productively working
away and there is no action item on any of this, as far as I know.
best regards from Berkeley, California
Brian M Hamlin
On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 15:11:47 +0200, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
Dear members of the Board,
I am writing to you because I am experiencing some issues with a person
that applied to be mentor for GSoC. I don’t think it is any news that
as admins are responsible for the mentors and, should they disappear
during the year, admins should take over. It is our interest to
*select* mentors that are reliable, and have a solid record in the
community they contribute to. Managing mentors from all the project
communities under OSGeo’s umbrella, as well as guest projects, is not
easy, mostly because we don’t know each and every person that apply
to become mentor. Most of the times, it is sufficient to browse the
code contribution of these people. We have also simplified the
procedure to become a mentor, so that the mentors have to appoint
themselves in a wiki page [1], the more transparent the procedure is,
the better. We normally contact would-be mentors if any information is
missing or unclear, especially if we don’t know them.
Now, it occurred that one of those people, that I don’t personally
know, had indicated several entries in the field of “software
community”, some of which are not under OSGeo umbrella. Normally,
what I do in these cases, I contacted him asking to clarify what
exactly was the idea he wanted to mentor for. I also discussed with
Anne and she was in cc in the whole email exchange. This person never
clarified his intentions, remaining vague. Anne and I were in doubt
whether the procedure was not clear to him. I can extrapolate some
sentences from the email exchange:
Me: “I'm writing you because I saw that you requested to mentor this
year for GSoC. Could you please specify for which software community
and which idea?”
He: “I am new to GSoC. After many years of building the SciPy Geo
stack for OSGeo-Live, I believe I could take a student through many
different paths. I have not looked at the ideas page much -- what is
the protocol there ? Do I add ideas ?”
He had not specified OSGeo-Live as a project he wanted to mentor for,
but since he specified several, and cited it in his first email, I
assumed he meant to mentor for OSGeo-Live. However, I requested him
again to specify at least one idea he wanted to mentor for, and linked
him some resources, because he was clearly confused about the whole
GSoC concept. Waiting for his answer, I have hold to appoint him as
mentor.
He never got back with a reply, but his next email was: “Hi
Margherita -- whats going on now ?”
You can imagine my surprise, however, I replied that we received no
students submissions for OSGeo-Live. Moreover, student submissions were
closed and we accept further mentors only if they are already bound to
a specific proposal. Then his answer was the most surprising one:
“Hi Margherita -
this is confusing, since I am not listed as "OSGeo-Live" mentor..
perhaps someone else is giving you information and you are distracted ?
You might be mixing this with last years OSGeo-Live and your brother-in-law ?
I had two students, but I don think they were clear on the process,
either, since this is their first time too
I am available as listed - thanks”
So he never mentioned who are the students and what are the ideas that
he is up to mentor, but he is accusing me to be distracted and
confused, and he is mentioning my brother in law, that is, no mystery,
epifanio. At this, I perceived his intention was more like spamming /
bullying rather than mentoring, and I replied :
“this is confusing indeed, because you were not clear at all about
the OSGeo or guest project you wanted to mentor for! I guessed it was
the OSGeo-live because was the only OSGeo project you mentioned in your
email! Please try not to mix my family ties with gsoc and make clear to
yourself your plans about mentoring.”
However, the reason why I’m writing is that this person has started
to slander my work as admin in public chats, like this:
x: ah hm interesting -- my student just wrote me and said that he DID
supply the application for PostGIS in time for the deadline
x: thats a neat twist, considering that my mentor status was listed as
"PostGIS" .. and the rejection email from Margharita definitely said
"We did not receive any applications for OSGeo-Live"
x: and, there is one and only one PostGIS mentor listed, which is me
x: -
x: so I have to give you some credit epifanio for actually feeding your
sister-in-law some story that got me out .. effective "revenge" there
x: you said you would get me, and you did
Now, I’m not impressed by his bullying, and I pity him. But, beside I
don’t have a clue of what he is talking about (not that it interests
me in the slightest) I need to maintain my reputation crystal clear,
and since this is a delicate matter about privacy, I don’t feel like
sharing to everyone all the email exchange revealing the name of this
person and so on. This would be mean. But I remain at disposal of any
member of the board that wanted to go further in this matter.
I also would like to point out that this is a very serious matter,
since in the GSoC program, money are involved and I don’t want to
raise the slightest doubt about my respectability or my favouring a
member of my family in any circumstances. If this person continues on
this way, I’m afraid I’ll be forced to do anything is legally in my
power to protect my respectability.
Finally, as far as GSoC is concerned: I have always given the benefit
of the doubt to anyone. English is my second language and I cannot be
always sure to understand every shades of what people mean, and in the
doubt, I always assume that they mean good. However, it looks clear to
me that this person’s behavior demonstrates a childish attitude (not
to say worse) and, as long as the mentors selection is under my
responsibility, I don’t consider him mature and reliable to become a
mentor for any of our students.
Please, pardon the length of my email, but I needed to bring this
matter to the Board in order to make the situation as transparent and
crystal clear as possible. Allow me to add that behaviours like this
one really dishearten people from taking the initiative of doing
something on a voluntary basis.
[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2016_Administrative
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Margherita Di Leo
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Brian M Hamlin
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