[Board] motion: marketing committee chair

Marc VLOEMANS marcvloemans1 at gmail.com
Thu May 12 03:39:45 PDT 2016


Maxi

I happily refer to my discussion piece in the Marketing Wiki (feel free to
dive into it).

The goals (and not only the communication side of things!) are not per se
mine. They are based on the discussed items and results of the
aforementioned piece, the input from the various stakeholders (committee
members, projects etc) etc.

However, if there is not enough feed back from the community (incl the
Board). I will propose some actions derived from some more subjective goals.

In either case I need explicit buy-in from the Board.

I am not in favour for quick fixes. Rather would I take a fundamental
approach and first some baby steps than end-up burned out by lack of
support and constructive community feed back.



Op donderdag 12 mei 2016 heeft Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> het volgende geschreven:

> Mark
> Thanks for the resume.
> Could you shorthly summarise what's the marketing comm goals are and how
> it relate to the board?
>
> Thanks
> Il 12/Mag/2016 10:27, "Marc VLOEMANS" <marcvloemans1 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marcvloemans1 at gmail.com');>> ha scritto:
>
>> Nicolas et al
>>
>> I realise that some in the committe may not know me, so for those a
>> bulleted resume cum history:
>>
>> - in the days Frank Warmerdam served on the board I had a discussion on
>> how OSGeo missed out by the way its marketing was done. Somehow, I did not
>> get any traction and left it.
>> - during the time Bart van der Eijnden served as Board member I again
>> proposed to the Board (asked by and communicated via Bart) to work on
>> proper strategic marketing. The reply we got was not quite what we
>> expected, though.
>> - this year I felt first hand as member of the LOC FOSS4G2016 in Bonn
>> that the LOC is reinventing the marketing wheel and thus spending too much
>> personal time. We cannot depend on any marketing help from OSGeo (and a
>> shabby mailinglist of 20+k is hilariously small, considering the world wide
>> impact our projects have), so Jody roped me in (he would make a great
>> fisherman!).
>> - Please be aware that the present committee has been dormant for 2
>> years, judging from (the lack of) mailinglist, wiki and website activity
>>
>> So why did I step up to the plate? While I:
>> - cannot code and will not ever learn how to, but are in awe of those
>> that can explain 'stuff' to me
>> - have no employer or business (anymore) benefitting from OSGeo work
>> - have not worked on OSGeo-projects otherwise
>> - am often frustrated to have next to no peers to talk to when it comes
>> to what community marketing is/can be (e.g. not only PR)
>>
>> Well, because (in no particular order):
>> - open source in general has been my stamping ground for 15 odd years
>> - I grew into this community and the community grew on me
>> - it overlaps some of and faciliates my LOC Bonn involvement
>> - my earlier business and employer had overlapping activities with OSGeo
>> - I consider some as very good friends, who I can support in turn for
>> their help in the past/present/future
>> - I feel my more business related skills and experience complement the
>> abundance of technical abilities in the community
>> - it is a culture where I feel comfortable in (while remaining critical
>> at the same time ;-)
>>
>> However, I ask:
>> - the committee, the Board and the community at large to either
>> contribute structurally (e.g. to the concept marketing proposal in the
>> wiki-marketing-discussion)
>> - Or show faith me in my skills and experience and provide additonal
>> feed-back, insights, experiences or just moral support whenever someone
>> feels obliged to
>> - and act upon the findings and to-do's
>>
>> And to be a little bit Dutch:
>> - past & present inertia has raised the issue of irrelevance
>> - no effective strategy and marketing is scattering the scarce resources
>> we have
>> - if there were more people from the business side of open spatial
>> involved I welcome them full heartedly
>> - following procedures etc is all well and good, but it hamstrings in
>> many situations, so transparancy is what really counts
>>
>> So bottom line:
>> - I am getting impatient as time is moving fast
>> - I am getting exasperated as I am
>> - I am getting frustrated with lask of progress
>> - I am getting fed up with raising the dead
>>
>> If:
>> - I have to wait on the present Marketing committee (or what's left of it)
>> - I have to wait on a new committee (I do not exactly see people fighting
>> to get in)
>> - if I have to wait on getting things done (I cannot imagine software
>> development depending on quora's etc)
>>
>> In order to:
>> - scratch my own itch
>> - be part of the solution instead of the problem
>> - get things moving forward
>>
>> Then I rather pass and move on.
>> Well, so much for my pitch for the White House ;-)
>>
>>
>> (Sorry to see you leave Jeroen, but I know you have already too many
>> things on your hands ;-)
>>
>> Regards, Marc
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> 2016-05-12 9:19 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Ticheler <jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net');>>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I would like to also step back from the marketing committee. I can't
>>> give it the attention it needs.
>>> Cheers, Jeroen
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>>> Op 12 mei 2016 om 09:10 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jody.garnett at gmail.com');>> het volgende
>>> geschreven:
>>>
>>> I offered to join a few months ago, as has Marc, but the website does
>>> not reflect this - the wiki
>>> <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee> lists the following
>>> members:
>>>
>>>    - Cameron Shorter, Chair
>>>    - Alex Mandel
>>>    - Arnulf Christl
>>>    - Jeroen Ticheler
>>>    - Jo Cook
>>>    - Nicolas Bozon
>>>    - Peter Batty
>>>    - Daniele Nascimento
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>> On 11 May 2016 at 23:09, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bozon at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nicolas.bozon at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/04/2016 3:20 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To keep up with current events I would like to make two motions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - MOT1: Thanks Cameron for his service (thank you) as Marketting chair
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>> Thank you Cameron for long and good service as committee chair
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - MOT2: Accept Marc Vloeman's offer volunteer for this role - and
>>>>>> nominate him for this position.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> -0
>>>> While i warmly welcome Jody and Marc in the Committee, i am surprised
>>>> by the lack of reaction or our committee members.
>>>> Before pushing motions and nominating a new chair, we should first
>>>> ensure that we have enough active voting members IMHO.
>>>> I suggest we may postpone this motion in order to first 'upgrade'
>>>> memberships  and hopefully get a descent 'quorum' anytime.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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