[Board] resuming discussion on vice-presidents and officers

[Venkatesh Raghavan]

Hi Jody,

On 11/9/2016 8:26 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> Venka, you have failed to acknowledge the reasons why Michael Smith and
> myself did not vote for MOT3 - and skipped straight ahead to other motions.

I acknowledge that Mike and Jody voted disagreed for MOT3
Mike felt that the President and Vice-President appointments
could be open to persons with past experience in the OSGeo board.
Jody expressed that President and Vice-President could be
appointed from among our Charter members.

I came with the new motions in response to requests
to come up alternative motions when disagreeing. It was not my
intention of skipping ahead but only propose
alternative motion while expressing my disagreement to
a current motion.

> Please stop; respect others; and try and build consensus.

I meant disrespect to the opinion of others and the mail
below is a part of my effort to build consensus by
proposing alternatives. You may kindly note that I have
stated in the loomio thread that MOT8 and MOT9
could be moved if there is no objection from others.

Best

Venka

>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 8 November 2016 at 15:02, Venkatesh Raghavan <
> raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am voting "disagreed" for the present MOT6 on loomio because;
>>
>> a) I have already voted "agreed" for "MOT3: President and Vice-President
>> be selecting
>> from current board" and also explained my views in my earlier mail to this
>> list [1].
>>
>> b) I think the President and regional Vice-President should be able
>> to vote on motions tabled at the board meetings. This is presently
>> possible only for elected board members.
>>
>> I am also for continuing our current practice of appointing our charter
>> members
>> (or external members, although there is no precedence for this) as
>> Officers for other committee (marketing, incubation, SAC, Geo4All, UN,
>> etc.)
>> and software PSCs.
>>
>> Current board members Helena, Angelos and Anita were nominated as regional
>> Vice-President at our last board meeting. Anita had declined. Therefore,
>> I would like to propose the following new motions.
>>
>> MOT8: Helena to continue as regional Vice-President for the rest of
>> her term as elected Board member. (Nominated by Venka and seconded by
>> Maria at the board meenting held on 3 Nov. 2016)
>>
>> MOT9: Appoint Angelos as our new regional Vice-President for the rest of
>> his term as elected Board member. (Nominated by Venka and seconded by
>> Maria at the board meeting held on 3 Nov. 2016 and also earlier on loomio)
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Venka
>>
>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2016-November/014703.html
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/2016 3:56 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>
>> We have now exhausted the three proposals put forth in the IRC meeting.
>>
>> I would like to resume discussion, asking all board members to listen now
>> and compose a motion that that can be approved. In several cases the voting
>> process is shutting down conversation at the expense of communication.
>>
>> Please take a moment to read why each motion was rejected, and what you
>> could do to open up communication with the parties that were forced to vote
>> "no".
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>>
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