[Board] resuming discussion on vice-presidents and officers

[Jody Garnett]

Thanks Venka, I felt bad after mailing that terse response - please forgive
me.

I have sent a longer email trying to explore what we are looking at, I
trust we can find a good balance.

--
Jody Garnett

On 8 November 2016 at 15:51, Venkatesh Raghavan <venka.osgeo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jody,
>
> On 11/9/2016 8:26 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
>> Venka, you have failed to acknowledge the reasons why Michael Smith and
>> myself did not vote for MOT3 - and skipped straight ahead to other
>> motions.
>>
>
> I acknowledge that Mike and Jody voted disagreed for MOT3
> Mike felt that the President and Vice-President appointments
> could be open to persons with past experience in the OSGeo board.
> Jody expressed that President and Vice-President could be
> appointed from among our Charter members.
>
> I came with the new motions in response to requests
> to come up alternative motions when disagreeing. It was not my
> intention of skipping ahead but only propose
> alternative motion while expressing my disagreement to
> a current motion.
>
> Please stop; respect others; and try and build consensus.
>>
>
> I meant disrespect to the opinion of others and the mail
> below is a part of my effort to build consensus by
> proposing alternatives. You may kindly note that I have
> stated in the loomio thread that MOT8 and MOT9
> could be moved if there is no objection from others.
>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 8 November 2016 at 15:02, Venkatesh Raghavan <
>> raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I am voting "disagreed" for the present MOT6 on loomio because;
>>>
>>> a) I have already voted "agreed" for "MOT3: President and Vice-President
>>> be selecting
>>> from current board" and also explained my views in my earlier mail to
>>> this
>>> list [1].
>>>
>>> b) I think the President and regional Vice-President should be able
>>> to vote on motions tabled at the board meetings. This is presently
>>> possible only for elected board members.
>>>
>>> I am also for continuing our current practice of appointing our charter
>>> members
>>> (or external members, although there is no precedence for this) as
>>> Officers for other committee (marketing, incubation, SAC, Geo4All, UN,
>>> etc.)
>>> and software PSCs.
>>>
>>> Current board members Helena, Angelos and Anita were nominated as
>>> regional
>>> Vice-President at our last board meeting. Anita had declined. Therefore,
>>> I would like to propose the following new motions.
>>>
>>> MOT8: Helena to continue as regional Vice-President for the rest of
>>> her term as elected Board member. (Nominated by Venka and seconded by
>>> Maria at the board meenting held on 3 Nov. 2016)
>>>
>>> MOT9: Appoint Angelos as our new regional Vice-President for the rest of
>>> his term as elected Board member. (Nominated by Venka and seconded by
>>> Maria at the board meeting held on 3 Nov. 2016 and also earlier on
>>> loomio)
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Venka
>>>
>>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2016-November/014703.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/9/2016 3:56 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>
>>> We have now exhausted the three proposals put forth in the IRC meeting.
>>>
>>> I would like to resume discussion, asking all board members to listen now
>>> and compose a motion that that can be approved. In several cases the
>>> voting
>>> process is shutting down conversation at the expense of communication.
>>>
>>> Please take a moment to read why each motion was rejected, and what you
>>> could do to open up communication with the parties that were forced to
>>> vote
>>> "no".
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>>
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