[Board] Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release -input invited from Marketing and Incubation committees

Tue Apr 18 13:23:29 PDT 2017

Jody, board,

Yes, I can attend a board meeting, assuming a timeslot is selected when 
I'm available. (Ie, when I'm awake).

Cheers, Cameron

On 18/4/17 10:52 pm, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
> Board Members, Project Directors, stakeholders
>
>   at our most recent OSGeo-Live weekly meeting, there was some 
> discussion about the technical changes that may be coming in a 
> "reboot" of the OSGeo-Live build process. The email here starts a 
> discussion that is organizational. These are not the same.
>   As an original OSGeo-Live PSC member, I will write on these topics 
> in the coming weeks, and will present to the Board.
>   best regards from Berkeley, Califorinia
>   -- Brian M Hamlin
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:18:09 -0500, Jody Garnett 
> <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am sorry you missed your milestone, going to limit my reply to the 
> board list. Cross posting emails to several mailing lists makes it 
> very hard for those only subscribed to one list. The incubation is 
> focused on on-boarding new projects, sharing our standards for open 
> source development (I would ask that it remain focused on this 
> activity). The performance of OSGeo projects is a matter for the board 
> and their respective project officers
>
> Cameron there are certainly some projects that no longer meet our 
> requirements to be OSGeo projects. We have two data points:
>
> 1) Presentation from maxi indicating not all projects are meeting our 
> expectations. This presentation was shared with the board list but has 
> not resulted in any discussion. 2) Your email indicating that some 
> osgeo projects are not up to your standards for OSGeo live, and your 
> question about weather these projects should be retired from OSGeo
>
> The board has two tools for communicating with projects:
> - our project officers are expected to attend board meetings when they 
> have an item to discuss
> - projects are expected to provide a report for the annual general 
> meeting
>
> I guess I would like to hear from both you and maxi about your 
> experience. Could you attend a board meeting in May to discuss this 
> issue? We have also scheduled a work party hangout for later this 
> month which could be put to use. --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 17 April 2017 at 17:24, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> OSGeo Marketing and Incubation Committees, OSGeo Board,
> We (the OSGeo-Live team) would welcome broad discussion within OSGeo 
> about about what projects we might retire from OSGeo-Live. This is 
> particularly relevant to OSGeo Marketing and Incubation activities as:
> 1. OSGeo-Live is a marketing tool for OSGeo projects. 2. I expect that 
> a few of the candidate projects to retire from OSGeo-Live will be 
> official OSGeo projects, which have previously passed incubation. A 
> bigger question is whether we should retire these projects from being 
> considered "OSGeo official projects". Within the next couple of weeks, 
> we will be discussing which projects we should be considering for 
> retirement.
> Should you wish to comment, please reply to discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>
> Warm regards, Cameron
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>
> Subject:[Live-demo] Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release
> Date:Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:40:25 0200
> From:Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
> To:Live Demo <live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>, Discuss 
> <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>
> Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release
>
> 18 April 2017
>
> For our next OSGeo-Live release, 11.0, we propose to reduce the number
> of packages included, and only support a 64 bit distribution, (32 bit
> will be built but not tested or officially supported).
> Factors leading to this suggestion include:
> 1. Some projects have dwindling communities and momentum. 2. Increased 
> OSGeo-Live scope has increased our core maintenance and
> testing. 3. Reduced engagement from projects (partly due to less core 
> time spent
> reaching out to projects)
> 4. Missing our first release milestone in 9 years.
> From our options of reduce quality, become more efficient, increase
> volunteer engagement, find a sponsor to support core activities, and
> reduce scope, reducing scope is our most viable and acceptable option. 
> Other ideas are welcomed.
> Questions we will ask in assessing which projects to keep include:
> 1. Is there an ACTIVE OSGeo-Live liaison person/people for the project?
> Prior list is copied to "Contact" column at:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150 
>
> 2. Has the Project Overview and Quickstart been reviewed and are they
> current and complete?
> 3. Do OpenHub metrics reflect an active and healthy community:
> https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html
> 4. Is the project being updated on OSGeo-Live with each release?
>
> Key Milestones
> ---------------
> 5-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application versions
> installed)
> 19-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application versions
> installed - Beta stage)
> 24-Jul-2017 OSGeo-Live Final ISO
> 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
>
> full schedule:
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB 
>
>
> About OSGeo-Live
> ----------------
> OSGeo-Live (http://live.osgeo.org) is a Lubuntu (http://lubuntu.net)
> based distribution of Geospatial Open Source Software, available via a
> Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB. You can use OSGeo-Live to try a wide
> variety of open source geospatial software without installing anything.
> Greetings from th OSGeo-Live Team!
>
> -- 
>
> Astrid Emde
> Charter Member
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde
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