[Board] Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release -input invited from Marketing and Incubation committees

Brian M Hamlin maplabs at light42.com
Tue Apr 18 05:52:27 PDT 2017

Board Members, Project Directors, stakeholders
  at our most recent OSGeo-Live weekly meeting, there was some 
discussion about the technical changes that may be coming in a "reboot" 
of the OSGeo-Live build process. The email here starts a discussion 
that is organizational. These are not the same. 
  As an original OSGeo-Live PSC member, I will write on these topics 
in the coming weeks, and will present to the Board. 
  best regards from Berkeley, Califorinia
  -- Brian M Hamlin

On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:18:09 -0500, Jody Garnett 
<jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:

I am sorry you missed your milestone, going to limit my reply to the 
board list. Cross posting emails to several mailing lists makes it very 
hard for those only subscribed to one list. The incubation is focused 
on on-boarding new projects, sharing our standards for open source 
development (I would ask that it remain focused on this activity). The 
performance of OSGeo projects is a matter for the board and their 
respective project officers
Cameron there are certainly some projects that no longer meet our 
requirements to be OSGeo projects. We have two data points:
1) Presentation from maxi indicating not all projects are meeting our 
expectations. This presentation was shared with the board list but has 
not resulted in any discussion. 
2) Your email indicating that some osgeo projects are not up to your 
standards for OSGeo live, and your question about weather these 
projects should be retired from OSGeo
The board has two tools for communicating with projects:
- our project officers are expected to attend board meetings when they 
have an item to discuss
- projects are expected to provide a report for the annual general meeting
I guess I would like to hear from both you and maxi about your 
experience. Could you attend a board meeting in May to discuss this 
issue? We have also scheduled a work party hangout for later this month 
which could be put to use. 
Jody Garnett

On 17 April 2017 at 17:24, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:

OSGeo Marketing and Incubation Committees, OSGeo Board,
We (the OSGeo-Live team) would welcome broad discussion within OSGeo 
about about what projects we might retire from OSGeo-Live. 
This is particularly relevant to OSGeo Marketing and Incubation activities as:
1. OSGeo-Live is a marketing tool for OSGeo projects. 
2. I expect that a few of the candidate projects to retire from 
OSGeo-Live will be official OSGeo projects, which have previously 
passed incubation. A bigger question is whether we should retire these 
projects from being considered "OSGeo official projects". 
Within the next couple of weeks, we will be discussing which projects 
we should be considering for retirement. 

Should you wish to comment, please reply to discuss at lists.osgeo.org

Warm regards, Cameron

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Subject:[Live-demo] Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release
Date:Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:40:25 0200
From:Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
To:Live Demo <live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>, Discuss <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>

Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release

18 April 2017

For our next OSGeo-Live release, 11.0, we propose to reduce the number
of packages included, and only support a 64 bit distribution, (32 bit
will be built but not tested or officially supported). 

Factors leading to this suggestion include:
1. Some projects have dwindling communities and momentum. 
2. Increased OSGeo-Live scope has increased our core maintenance and
3. Reduced engagement from projects (partly due to less core time spent
reaching out to projects)
4. Missing our first release milestone in 9 years. 

 From our options of reduce quality, become more efficient, increase
volunteer engagement, find a sponsor to support core activities, and
reduce scope, reducing scope is our most viable and acceptable option. 
Other ideas are welcomed. 

Questions we will ask in assessing which projects to keep include:
1. Is there an ACTIVE OSGeo-Live liaison person/people for the project?
Prior list is copied to "Contact" column at:
2. Has the Project Overview and Quickstart been reviewed and are they
current and complete?
3. Do OpenHub metrics reflect an active and healthy community:
4. Is the project being updated on OSGeo-Live with each release?

Key Milestones
5-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application versions
19-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application versions
installed - Beta stage)
24-Jul-2017 OSGeo-Live Final ISO
14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston

full schedule:

About OSGeo-Live
OSGeo-Live (http://live.osgeo.org) is a Lubuntu (http://lubuntu.net)
based distribution of Geospatial Open Source Software, available via a
Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB. You can use OSGeo-Live to try a wide
variety of open source geospatial software without installing anything. 

Greetings from th OSGeo-Live Team!


Astrid Emde
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
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Brian M Hamlin
OSGeo California Chapter


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