[Board] Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release - input invited from Marketing and Incubation committees

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Mon Apr 17 21:18:09 PDT 2017

I am sorry you missed your milestone, going to limit my reply to the board
list. Cross posting emails to several mailing lists makes it very hard for
those only subscribed to one list. The incubation is focused on on-boarding
new projects, sharing our standards for open source development (I would
ask that it remain focused on this activity). The performance of OSGeo
projects is a matter for the board and their respective project officers

Cameron there are certainly some projects that no longer meet our
requirements to be OSGeo projects. We have two data points:

1) Presentation from maxi indicating not all projects are meeting our
expectations. This presentation was shared with the board list but has not
resulted in any discussion.
2) Your email indicating that some osgeo projects are not up to your
standards for OSGeo live, and your question about weather these projects
should be retired from OSGeo

The board has two tools for communicating with projects:
- our project officers are expected to attend board meetings when they have
an item to discuss
- projects are expected to provide a report for the annual general meeting

I guess I would like to hear from both you and maxi about your experience.
Could you attend a board meeting in May to discuss this issue? We have also
scheduled a work party hangout for later this month which could be put to
Jody Garnett

On 17 April 2017 at 17:24, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>

> OSGeo Marketing and Incubation Committees, OSGeo Board,
> We (the OSGeo-Live team) would welcome broad discussion within OSGeo about
> about what projects we might retire from OSGeo-Live.
> This is particularly relevant to OSGeo Marketing and Incubation activities
> as:
> 1. OSGeo-Live is a marketing tool for OSGeo projects.
> 2. I expect that a few of the candidate projects to retire from OSGeo-Live
> will be official OSGeo projects, which have previously passed incubation. A
> bigger question is whether we should retire these projects from being
> considered "OSGeo official projects".
> Within the next couple of weeks, we will be discussing which projects we
> should be considering for retirement.
> Should you wish to comment, please reply to discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> Warm regards, Cameron
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [Live-demo] Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release
> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:40:25 +0200
> From: Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <astrid_emde at osgeo.org> <astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
> To: Live Demo <live-demo at lists.osgeo.org> <live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>,
> Discuss <discuss at lists.osgeo.org> <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release
> 18 April 2017
> For our next OSGeo-Live release, 11.0, we propose to reduce the number
> of packages included, and only support a 64 bit distribution, (32 bit
> will be built but not tested or officially supported).
> Factors leading to this suggestion include:
> 1. Some projects have dwindling communities and momentum.
> 2. Increased OSGeo-Live scope has increased our core maintenance and
> testing.
> 3. Reduced engagement from projects (partly due to less core time spent
> reaching out to projects)
> 4. Missing our first release milestone in 9 years.
>  From our options of reduce quality, become more efficient, increase
> volunteer engagement, find a sponsor to support core activities, and
> reduce scope, reducing scope is our most viable and acceptable option.
> Other ideas are welcomed.
> Questions we will ask in assessing which projects to keep include:
> 1. Is there an ACTIVE OSGeo-Live liaison person/people for the project?
> Prior list is copied to "Contact" column at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
> 2. Has the Project Overview and Quickstart been reviewed and are they
> current and complete?
> 3. Do OpenHub metrics reflect an active and healthy community: https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html
> 4. Is the project being updated on OSGeo-Live with each release?
> Key Milestones
> ---------------
>   5-Jun-2017	OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application versions
> installed)
> 19-Jun-2017	OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application versions
> installed - Beta stage)
> 24-Jul-2017	OSGeo-Live Final ISO
> 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
> full schedule:http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
> About OSGeo-Live
> ----------------
> OSGeo-Live (http://live.osgeo.org) is a Lubuntu (http://lubuntu.net)
> based distribution of Geospatial Open Source Software, available via a
> Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB. You can use OSGeo-Live to try a wide
> variety of open source geospatial software without installing anything.
> Greetings from th OSGeo-Live Team!
> --
> Astrid Emde
> Charter Member
> Open Source Geospatial Foundationhttp://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde
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