[Board] [FOSS4G 2016] Fwd: Re: [Journal] Feedback: [FOSS4G Proceedings] Reminder - Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016 Academic Trac

Maria Antonia Brovelli maria.brovelli at polimi.it
Thu Jul 27 23:43:16 PDT 2017


Dear Venka
Thanks for forwarding. I'm a bit surprised by the request. I believed that the organisation of the Academic Track and everything related was on voluntarily basis. I have been chairing for some years both the International and European, producing Proceedings as well. In the case of FOSS4G Paris we published with ISPRS and we chose the less expensive option comporting that the most of the work for preparing the Proceedings was on the shoulders of the chair (in this case it was me).
I'm fine with every decision, but I want that everything is clear in order to avoid having people doing activities and being paid and other people doing similar activities without being paid.
Before voting, probably I need more pieces of information for better understanding. Probably there is something that I am missing.
Best.
Maria




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-------- Original message --------
From: Venka <venka.osgeo at gmail.com>
Date: 28/07/2017 05:53 (GMT+01:00)
To: OSGeo-Board <board at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Board] [FOSS4G 2016] Fwd: Re: [Journal] Feedback: [FOSS4G Proceedings] Reminder - Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016 Academic Trac

Dear All,

I am forwarding a request from Academic Chair of FOSS4G-2016, Bonn
regarding funding for formatting and layout of OSGeo Journal issue
incorporating selected papers presented at FOSS4G-2016 (adademic track).

The request is for 1200Euro, for 24 hours of work @50Euro/hour.

Is it OK to start a Loomio voting to consider this request.

Best

Venka

On 2017/07/23 23:35, Franz-Josef Behr wrote:
> Dear Venka,
>
> I hope you are fine!
>
> (In fact I had the impression at FOSS4G Europe that you have too much
> pressure at the moment.)
>
> Nevertheless because of the request of Andy (see below) I'd like to come
> back to the funding of 2 days work for formatting for another issue of
> the OSGeo journal.
>
> Whe will the decision of the board happen?
>
> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>
>
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff:     Re: [Foss4g-academic] Preliminary FOSS4G 2017 Call for
> Presentations Web Site
> Datum:     Thu, 20 Jul 2017 17:06:09 +0000
> Von:     Andy Anderson <aanderson at amherst.edu>
> An:     Franz-Josef Behr <franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>
>
>
> Hi, Franz-Josef,
>
> We are preparing proceedings for FOSS4G 2017, and was expecting that it
> would be volume 17 of the OSGeo Journal. But I wanted to check with you
> if there are 2016 proceedings that will be published as volume 16? I
> don’t see them here:
>
> https://journal.osgeo.org/index.php/journal
>
> Thanks,
>
> — Andy
>
>
>
> Am 22.06.2017 um 16:18 schrieb Franz-Josef Behr:
>>
>> Dear Venka,
>>
>> I want to come back to the request for funding of 2 days work for
>> formatting for another issue of the OSGeo journal.
>>
>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>>
>>
>> Am 10.05.2017 um 21:49 schrieb Franz-Josef Behr:
>>>
>>> Dear Venka,
>>>
>>> here the estimation from Barend regarding the amount necessary for
>>> copyediting and layouting of the papers for the journal
>>>
>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>>> Betreff:     Re: [FOSS4G 2016] Fwd: Re: [Journal] Feedback: [FOSS4G
>>>> Proceedings] Reminder - Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016
>>>> Academic Trac
>>>> Datum:     Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:26:01 +0000
>>>> Von:     b.j.kobben at utwente.nl
>>>> An:     franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sure, then 24 x 50 =*€ 1200,-*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Barend Köbben
>>>> Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
>>>> PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
>>>> ITC Building (room 1-065)
>>>> @barendkobben
>>>> +31-(0)53 4874 253
>>>>
>>>> On 21/04/2017, 04:39, "Franz-Josef
>>>> Behr"<franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Dear Barend,
>>>>      to be on the safe side: I suggest 24 hours, there might be
>>>> issues with
>>>>      the resolution of images and things like that.
>>>>      What do you think? Can you update your offer?
>>>>      Best regards - Franz-Josef
>>>>      Am 19.04.2017 um 14:34 schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl:
>>>>      > Hi Franz-Josef,
>>>>      >
>>>>      > I don't see too much problems (other then that it is actually
>>>> a list of 10 papers, not 9 ;-)
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Do I understand correctly that the papers should/could be
>>>> published as is, that is I only need to copy-edit these into LaTeX
>>>> and publish a OSGEO Journal volume in PDF...?
>>>>      >
>>>>      > If the academic chairs provide me with all the texts and
>>>> graphics, and also a small introduction or editiorial, I would
>>>> assume the 130 pages or so would take me maybe 2 full days to
>>>> process. So let's say 16 hours à €50 is €800,-
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Does that sound reasonable?
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      > --
>>>>      > Barend Köbben
>>>>      > Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
>>>>      > PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
>>>>      > ITC Building (room 1-065)
>>>>      > @barendkobben
>>>>      > +31-(0)53 4874 253
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      > On 18/04/2017, 21:45, "Franz-Josef
>>>> Behr"<franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>  wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      >      Dear Barend,
>>>>      >
>>>>      >      find attached the list of 9 papers
>>>>      >
>>>> (FOSS4G2016_Submitted_Papers_2017_04_18_FJB_SV_TTV_CW_for_OSGeo.xlsx).
>>>>      >      You can see the number of pages in the sheet "for OSGeo
>>>> Journal".
>>>>      >
>>>>      >      I also attach some papers (not all), just to give you an
>>>> idea. Please
>>>>      >      note that author's nhame are not yet included.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >      I hope this is sufficient for a cost estimation.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >      Best regards - Franz-Josef
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >      Am 12.04.2017 um 09:20 schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl:
>>>>      >      > Hi Franz-Josef,
>>>>      >      >
>>>>      >      > I have no idea about the amount of work, because I was
>>>> not involved earlier I do not know:
>>>>      >      > - how many papers were accepted
>>>>      >      > - how large these papers are
>>>>      >      > - how they were originally sent in (file-format, was a
>>>> template used, separate images in high quality?)
>>>>      >      >
>>>>      >      > With that info (or even better, if you send me the
>>>> paper originals) I could make an estimate of the amount of hours...
>>>>      >      >
>>>>      >      > yours,
>>>>      >      >
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 12.04.2017 um 07:15 schrieb Venka:
>>>> Hi Fraz-Josef,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I seem to have missed your earlier mail
>>>> regarding this matter.
>>>>
>>>> I will need to take this up with the board.
>>>> Can you give an idea of the amount that you
>>>> request for copyediting and layouting of
>>>> papers for the journal issue?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Venka
>>>>
>>>> On 2017/04/12 13:41, Franz-Josef Behr wrote:
>>>>> Dear Venkatesh,
>>>>>
>>>>> this is a gentle reminder upon my request for some financial
>>>>> support from the board for the publication of the academic papers
>>>>> of FOSS4G 2016.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any decision yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 29.03.2017 um 22:36 schrieb Franz-Josef Behr:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Venkatesh,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> one of my unfulfiled duties is the publication of several papers
>>>>>> submitted and accepted in the academic track of FOSS46 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eli suggests that some experienced people should do the
>>>>>> copyediting and layout for these papers to publish a new issue of
>>>>>> our OSGeo Journal. Till Adams recommended to contact the OSGeo
>>>>>> board if this work could be financed out of the surplus of the
>>>>>> conference held here in Germany.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let us know your opinion or suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>>>>> Betreff:     Re: [Journal] Feedback: [FOSS4G Proceedings]
>>>>>> Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016 Academic Trac
>>>>>> Datum:     Sun, 19 Feb 2017 08:13:40 -0800
>>>>>> Von:     Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>>>>>> Antwort an: eadam at co.lincoln.or.us
>>>>>> An:     Franz-Josef Behr <franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>
>>>>>> Kopie (CC):     Christian Willmes <c.willmes at uni-koeln.de>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Franz-Josef,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Editing isn't necessarily done in svn but the source files are put
>>>>>> in svn.  Using svn can be especially useful if it is a
>>>>>> collaborative process between multiple people (someone else
>>>>>> assembles and then I copy edit and then they produce output).  I
>>>>>> would consider svn a minor detail. Use of svn can also be helpful
>>>>>> for coordinating correct volume number, etc. You can check
>>>>>> previous work,
>>>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_14 or
>>>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_13 etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I do suggest paying someone since I've not seen volunteers
>>>>>> successfully completing professional level output in a timely
>>>>>> manner for four or five years.  It is a somewhat rare skill too.
>>>>>> *Someone who can professionally assemble multiple articles into a
>>>>>> journal volume. Barend and Gary are two that I know of but you
>>>>>> could certainly find others.  Please have whoever it is coordinate
>>>>>> with the conference committee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy to help guide you (or someone you hire) through the
>>>>>> process.  Also happy to volunteer copy editing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards, Eli
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2017, Franz-Josef Behr
>>>>>> <franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de
>>>>>> <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Dear Eli,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     thank you for your message and the offered support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I'd like to understand better the process. Is the editing done
>>>>>>     through SVN? Do you suggest to pay somebody (I could ask the
>>>>>>     German FOSSGIS) for the editing work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Best regards - Franz-Josef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Am 17.02.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Eli Adam:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hi Franz-Josef,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         To proceed, you need to find someone willing to guest edit an
>>>>>>         edition
>>>>>>         of the OSGeo Journal and assemble everything.  Is there
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>         from
>>>>>>         the LOC who might volunteer?   Hiring someone (Barend or Gary
>>>>>>         Sherman
>>>>>>         are the first possibilities I can think of and I don't
>>>>>> know if
>>>>>>         either
>>>>>>         are interested) might be a possibility too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I'll help with copy editing to check minor details are
>>>>>> consistent
>>>>>>         (spelling, page numbers, etc).  I can also help get people
>>>>>>         access to
>>>>>>         svn or add the material for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Best regards, Eli
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Christian Willmes
>>>>>> <c.willmes at uni-koeln.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             I agreed to help in technical regards, with the OJS
>>>>>>             Journal system,
>>>>>>             uploading the Papers etc., but I won't help with the
>>>>>> LaTeX
>>>>>>             editing, I am
>>>>>>             not good at this kind of work, checking on formalities
>>>>>> etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Best,
>>>>>>             Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Am 16.02.2017 um 21:34 schrieb
>>>>>> franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Kategorie: FOSS4G Proceedings
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 as announced for the Academic Track of FOSS4G 2016,
>>>>>>                 accepted papers
>>>>>>                 papers
>>>>>>                 should be published in the OSGeo Journal.
>>>>>>                 How can we proceed? Christian Willmes is a little
>>>>>>                 involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Regards
>>>>>>                 Franz-Josef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Sent from http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal
>>>>>> <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal> by Franz-Josef
>>>>>>                 Behr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Site Name: OSGeo.org
>>>>>>                 Entered Name: Franz-Josef Behr
>>>>>>                 E-Mail-Adresse: franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de
>>>>>>                 Referring page: http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal
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