[Board] [FOSS4G 2016] Reminder - Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016 Academic Track

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Fri Sep 15 09:21:17 PDT 2017


Hey Barend:

This was first brought to my attention in the Boston f2f meeting, while
there were some questions we did end up with a couple of action items:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_Meeting_Boston_2017#Vote_on_funding_requests

   - Action Venka: Ask Franz to ask in public on the board email list?
   - Action Helena: Ask Charlie if foss4g Bonn publication accept a few
   more papers?

Venka/Helena was there any response?

You are totally welcome to attend any board meeting, especially if anything
is time critical. I will point out that while the board can make decisions
we are a contributor driven organization requiring participation to get
work done.



--
Jody Garnett

On 15 September 2017 at 08:22, <b.j.kobben at utwente.nl> wrote:

> Dear Moritz,
>
> I would not hold your breath if I was you....
>
> I have now given up on editing the OSGEO Journal (and consequently on the
> OSGEO board). Already in the beginning of this year Franz-Josef asked me if
> I would be willing to copy-edit the OSGEO journal edition for the 2016
> proceedings, but since then the OSGEO board is either not willing or not
> capable of making any decision. They seem to be able to endlessly discuss
> voting procedures or the merits of cooperation with LocationTech, but a
> simple decision on funding our own OSGEO-Journal is apparently beyond
> them...
>
> I sincerely advise you to retract your paper (which I thought was well
> worth reading) and send it in to a journal whose organisation is in better
> order. I don't have the emails of the other authors, otherwise I'd also
> advise them likewise...
>
> yours, truly,
> --
> Barend Köbben
>
>
> On 15/09/2017, 14:55, "Moritz Lennert" <moritz.lennert at ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
>     ping
>
>     On 02/09/17 14:23, Moritz Lennert wrote:
>     > Dear Franz-Josef,
>     >
>     > Is there still no news on this ?
>     >
>     > IIUC, the articles are ready, and we have someone willing to do the
> job
>     > of layouting the OSGeo journal. So, where is this still blocking ?
> It is
>     > a bit of a pity that these proceedings have not been published before
>     > the next FOSS4G...
>     >
>     > If it weren't for my loyalty to OSGeo I would start to regret
> deciding
>     > not to publish elsewhere...
>     >
>     > Best wishes,
>     > Moritz
>     >
>     > On 11/08/17 14:22, b.j.kobben at utwente.nl wrote:
>     >> Hi Moritz,
>     >>
>     >> I think Franz-Josef proposed something to the OSGEO board back in
> early May, but I have received no news on this issue.
>     >>
>     >> yours,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> Barend Köbben
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 27/07/2017, 18:39, "Moritz Lennert" <moritz.lennert at ulb.ac.be>
> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>       Dear all,
>     >>
>     >>       Has there been any advancement on this ? Has the board
> approved the
>     >>       funding ?
>     >>
>     >>       Best wishes,
>     >>       Moritz
>     >>
>     >>       On 22/06/17 16:18, Franz-Josef Behr wrote:
>     >>       > Dear Venka,
>     >>       >
>     >>       > I want to come back to the request for funding of 2 days
> work for
>     >>       > formatting for another issue of the OSGeo journal.
>     >>       >
>     >>       > Best regards - Franz-Josef
>     >>       >
>     >>       >
>     >>       > Am 10.05.2017 um 21:49 schrieb Franz-Josef Behr:
>     >>       >>
>     >>       >> Dear Venka,
>     >>       >>
>     >>       >> here the estimation from Barend regarding the amount
> necessary for
>     >>       >> copyediting and layouting of the papers for the journal
>     >>       >>
>     >>       >> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>     >>       >>> Betreff:       Re: [FOSS4G 2016] Fwd: Re: [Journal]
> Feedback: [FOSS4G
>     >>       >>> Proceedings] Reminder - Publication of papers of the
> FOSS4G 2016
>     >>       >>> Academic Trac
>     >>       >>> Datum:         Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:26:01 +0000
>     >>       >>> Von:   b.j.kobben at utwente.nl
>     >>       >>> An:    franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> sure, then 24 x 50 =*€ 1200,-*
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> --
>     >>       >>> Barend Köbben
>     >>       >>> Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
>     >>       >>> PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
>     >>       >>> ITC Building (room 1-065)
>     >>       >>> @barendkobben
>     >>       >>> +31-(0)53 4874 253
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> On 21/04/2017, 04:39, "Franz-Josef Behr"<
> franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>  wrote:
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>      Dear Barend,
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>      to be on the safe side: I suggest 24 hours, there
> might be issues with
>     >>       >>>      the resolution of images and things like that.
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>      What do you think? Can you update your offer?
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>      Best regards - Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>>      Am 19.04.2017 um 14:34 schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl:
>     >>       >>>      > Hi Franz-Josef,
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      > I don't see too much problems (other then that it
> is actually a list of 10 papers, not 9 ;-)
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      > Do I understand correctly that the papers
> should/could be published as is, that is I only need to copy-edit these
> into LaTeX and publish a OSGEO Journal volume in PDF...?
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      > If the academic chairs provide me with all the
> texts and graphics, and also a small introduction or editiorial, I would
> assume the 130 pages or so would take me maybe 2 full days to process. So
> let's say 16 hours à €50 is €800,-
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      > Does that sound reasonable?
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      > --
>     >>       >>>      > Barend Köbben
>     >>       >>>      > Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
>     >>       >>>      > PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
>     >>       >>>      > ITC Building (room 1-065)
>     >>       >>>      > @barendkobben
>     >>       >>>      > +31-(0)53 4874 253
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      > On 18/04/2017, 21:45, "Franz-Josef Behr"<
> franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>  wrote:
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >      Dear Barend,
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >      find attached the list of 9 papers
>     >>       >>>      >      (FOSS4G2016_Submitted_Papers_
> 2017_04_18_FJB_SV_TTV_CW_for_OSGeo.xlsx).
>     >>       >>>      >      You can see the number of pages in the sheet
> "for OSGeo Journal".
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >      I also attach some papers (not all), just to
> give you an idea. Please
>     >>       >>>      >      note that author's nhame are not yet included.
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >      I hope this is sufficient for a cost
> estimation.
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >      Best regards - Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >
>     >>       >>>      >      Am 12.04.2017 um 09:20
> schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl:
>     >>       >>>      >      > Hi Franz-Josef,
>     >>       >>>      >      >
>     >>       >>>      >      > I have no idea about the amount of work,
> because I was not involved earlier I do not know:
>     >>       >>>      >      > - how many papers were accepted
>     >>       >>>      >      > - how large these papers are
>     >>       >>>      >      > - how they were originally sent in
> (file-format, was a template used, separate images in high quality?)
>     >>       >>>      >      >
>     >>       >>>      >      > With that info (or even better, if you send
> me the paper originals) I could make an estimate of the amount of hours...
>     >>       >>>      >      >
>     >>       >>>      >      > yours,
>     >>       >>>      >      >
>     >>       >>
>     >>       >>
>     >>       >> Am 12.04.2017 um 07:15 schrieb Venka:
>     >>       >>> Hi Fraz-Josef,
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> Sorry, I seem to have missed your earlier mail
>     >>       >>> regarding this matter.
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> I will need to take this up with the board.
>     >>       >>> Can you give an idea of the amount that you
>     >>       >>> request for copyediting and layouting of
>     >>       >>> papers for the journal issue?
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> Best
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> Venka
>     >>       >>>
>     >>       >>> On 2017/04/12 13:41, Franz-Josef Behr wrote:
>     >>       >>>> Dear Venkatesh,
>     >>       >>>>
>     >>       >>>> this is a gentle reminder upon my request for some
> financial support
>     >>       >>>> from the board for the publication of the academic
> papers of FOSS4G
>     >>       >>>> 2016.
>     >>       >>>>
>     >>       >>>> Any decision yet?
>     >>       >>>>
>     >>       >>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>>>
>     >>       >>>>
>     >>       >>>> Am 29.03.2017 um 22:36 schrieb Franz-Josef Behr:
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> Dear Venkatesh,
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> one of my unfulfiled duties is the publication of
> several papers
>     >>       >>>>> submitted and accepted in the academic track of FOSS46
> 2016.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> Eli suggests that some experienced people should do the
> copyediting
>     >>       >>>>> and layout for these papers to publish a new issue of
> our OSGeo
>     >>       >>>>> Journal. Till Adams recommended to contact the OSGeo
> board if this
>     >>       >>>>> work could be financed out of the surplus of the
> conference held
>     >>       >>>>> here in Germany.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> Please let us know your opinion or suggestion.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>     >>       >>>>> Betreff:     Re: [Journal] Feedback: [FOSS4G
> Proceedings]
>     >>       >>>>> Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016 Academic Trac
>     >>       >>>>> Datum:     Sun, 19 Feb 2017 08:13:40 -0800
>     >>       >>>>> Von:     Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>     >>       >>>>> Antwort an: eadam at co.lincoln.or.us
>     >>       >>>>> An:     Franz-Josef Behr <franz-josef.behr at hft-
> stuttgart.de>
>     >>       >>>>> Kopie (CC):     Christian Willmes <
> c.willmes at uni-koeln.de>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> Hi Franz-Josef,
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> Editing isn't necessarily done in svn but the source
> files are put
>     >>       >>>>> in svn.  Using svn can be especially useful if it is a
>     >>       >>>>> collaborative process between multiple people (someone
> else
>     >>       >>>>> assembles and then I copy edit and then they produce
> output).  I
>     >>       >>>>> would consider svn a minor detail.  Use of svn can also
> be helpful
>     >>       >>>>> for coordinating correct volume number, etc. You can
> check previous
>     >>       >>>>> work, http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/
> browser/journal/volume_14 or
>     >>       >>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_13
> etc.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> *I do suggest paying someone since I've not seen
> volunteers
>     >>       >>>>> successfully completing professional level output in a
> timely
>     >>       >>>>> manner for four or five years.  It is a somewhat rare
> skill too.
>     >>       >>>>> *Someone who can professionally assemble multiple
> articles into a
>     >>       >>>>> journal volume. Barend and Gary are two that I know of
> but you
>     >>       >>>>> could certainly find others.  Please have whoever it is
> coordinate
>     >>       >>>>> with the conference committee.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> I'm happy to help guide you (or someone you hire)
> through the
>     >>       >>>>> process.  Also happy to volunteer copy editing.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> Best regards, Eli
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2017, Franz-Josef Behr
>     >>       >>>>> <franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de
>     >>       >>>>> <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>> wrote:
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>     Dear Eli,
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>     thank you for your message and the offered support.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>     I'd like to understand better the process. Is the
> editing done
>     >>       >>>>>     through SVN? Do you suggest to pay somebody (I
> could ask the
>     >>       >>>>>     German FOSSGIS) for the editing work?
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>     Best regards - Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>     Am 17.02.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Eli Adam:
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>         Hi Franz-Josef,
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>         To proceed, you need to find someone willing to
> guest edit an
>     >>       >>>>>         edition
>     >>       >>>>>         of the OSGeo Journal and assemble everything.
> Is there anyone
>     >>       >>>>>         from
>     >>       >>>>>         the LOC who might volunteer?   Hiring someone
> (Barend or Gary
>     >>       >>>>>         Sherman
>     >>       >>>>>         are the first possibilities I can think of and
> I don't know if
>     >>       >>>>>         either
>     >>       >>>>>         are interested) might be a possibility too.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>         I'll help with copy editing to check minor
> details are
>     >>       >>>>> consistent
>     >>       >>>>>         (spelling, page numbers, etc).  I can also help
> get people
>     >>       >>>>>         access to
>     >>       >>>>>         svn or add the material for them.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>         Best regards, Eli
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>         On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Christian
> Willmes
>     >>       >>>>> <c.willmes at uni-koeln.de> wrote:
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>             Hi,
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>             I agreed to help in technical regards, with
> the OJS
>     >>       >>>>>             Journal system,
>     >>       >>>>>             uploading the Papers etc., but I won't help
> with the LaTeX
>     >>       >>>>>             editing, I am
>     >>       >>>>>             not good at this kind of work, checking on
> formalities
>     >>       >>>>> etc...
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>             Best,
>     >>       >>>>>             Christian
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>             Am 16.02.2017 um 21:34 schrieb
>     >>       >>>>> franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de:
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>                 Kategorie: FOSS4G Proceedings
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>                 Dear colleagues,
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>                 as announced for the Academic Track of
> FOSS4G 2016,
>     >>       >>>>>                 accepted papers
>     >>       >>>>>                 papers
>     >>       >>>>>                 should be published in the OSGeo
> Journal.
>     >>       >>>>>                 How can we proceed? Christian Willmes
> is a little
>     >>       >>>>>                 involved.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>                 Regards
>     >>       >>>>>                 Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>                 Sent from
> http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal
>     >>       >>>>> <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal> by Franz-Josef
>     >>       >>>>>                 Behr.
>     >>       >>>>>
>     >>       >>>>>
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>     >>       >>>>>                 Entered Name: Franz-Josef Behr
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