[Board] [FOSS4G 2016] Reminder - Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016 Academic Track
Venkatesh Raghavan
raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp
Fri Sep 15 10:00:44 PDT 2017
My comments inline below;
On 9/16/2017 1:33 AM, Helena Mitasova wrote:
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Barend:
>>
>> This was first brought to my attention in the Boston f2f meeting, while there were some questions we did end up with a couple of action items: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_Meeting_Boston_2017#Vote_on_funding_requests <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_Meeting_Boston_2017#Vote_on_funding_requests>
>> Action Venka: Ask Franz to ask in public on the board email list?
My response was already sent to board list [1] a while ago
[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-August/010544.html
As Helena has suggested below, Franz could kindly get it touch with
Charlie and try to finalize joint publication of 2016 and 2017 papers.
Franz, Charlie, if there are any issues regarding the possible joint
publication, please get in touch on the board list.
>> Action Helena: Ask Charlie if foss4g Bonn publication accept a few more papers?
>> Venka/Helena was there any response?
> yes I already responded to this a while ago on the board list and yes Charlie Schweik is interested in publishing the 2016 proceedings through the same OSGeo journal platform as 2017 proceedings managed by UMass library.
>
> So I suggest that Franz-Josef contacts Charlie (cc-d here) to make the arrangements.
>
> Helena
Best
Venka
>
>
>> You are totally welcome to attend any board meeting, especially if anything is time critical. I will point out that while the board can make decisions we are a contributor driven organization requiring participation to get work done.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 15 September 2017 at 08:22, <b.j.kobben at utwente.nl <mailto:b.j.kobben at utwente.nl>> wrote:
>> Dear Moritz,
>>
>> I would not hold your breath if I was you....
>>
>> I have now given up on editing the OSGEO Journal (and consequently on the OSGEO board). Already in the beginning of this year Franz-Josef asked me if I would be willing to copy-edit the OSGEO journal edition for the 2016 proceedings, but since then the OSGEO board is either not willing or not capable of making any decision. They seem to be able to endlessly discuss voting procedures or the merits of cooperation with LocationTech, but a simple decision on funding our own OSGEO-Journal is apparently beyond them...
>>
>> I sincerely advise you to retract your paper (which I thought was well worth reading) and send it in to a journal whose organisation is in better order. I don't have the emails of the other authors, otherwise I'd also advise them likewise...
>>
>> yours, truly,
>> --
>> Barend Köbben
>>
>>
>> On 15/09/2017, 14:55, "Moritz Lennert" <moritz.lennert at ulb.ac.be <mailto:moritz.lennert at ulb.ac.be>> wrote:
>>
>> ping
>>
>> On 02/09/17 14:23, Moritz Lennert wrote:
>> > Dear Franz-Josef,
>> >
>> > Is there still no news on this ?
>> >
>> > IIUC, the articles are ready, and we have someone willing to do the job
>> > of layouting the OSGeo journal. So, where is this still blocking ? It is
>> > a bit of a pity that these proceedings have not been published before
>> > the next FOSS4G...
>> >
>> > If it weren't for my loyalty to OSGeo I would start to regret deciding
>> > not to publish elsewhere...
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> > Moritz
>> >
>> > On 11/08/17 14:22, b.j.kobben at utwente.nl <mailto:b.j.kobben at utwente.nl> wrote:
>> >> Hi Moritz,
>> >>
>> >> I think Franz-Josef proposed something to the OSGEO board back in early May, but I have received no news on this issue.
>> >>
>> >> yours,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Barend Köbben
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 27/07/2017, 18:39, "Moritz Lennert" <moritz.lennert at ulb.ac.be <mailto:moritz.lennert at ulb.ac.be>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear all,
>> >>
>> >> Has there been any advancement on this ? Has the board approved the
>> >> funding ?
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes,
>> >> Moritz
>> >>
>> >> On 22/06/17 16:18, Franz-Josef Behr wrote:
>> >> > Dear Venka,
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to come back to the request for funding of 2 days work for
>> >> > formatting for another issue of the OSGeo journal.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best regards - Franz-Josef
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Am 10.05.2017 um 21:49 schrieb Franz-Josef Behr:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear Venka,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> here the estimation from Barend regarding the amount necessary for
>> >> >> copyediting and layouting of the papers for the journal
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>> >> >>> Betreff: Re: [FOSS4G 2016] Fwd: Re: [Journal] Feedback: [FOSS4G
>> >> >>> Proceedings] Reminder - Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016
>> >> >>> Academic Trac
>> >> >>> Datum: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:26:01 +0000
>> >> >>> Von: b.j.kobben at utwente.nl <mailto:b.j.kobben at utwente.nl>
>> >> >>> An: franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> sure, then 24 x 50 =*€ 1200,-*
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Barend Köbben
>> >> >>> Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
>> >> >>> PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
>> >> >>> ITC Building (room 1-065)
>> >> >>> @barendkobben
>> >> >>> +31-(0)53 4874 253 <tel:%2B31-%280%2953%204874%20253>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 21/04/2017, 04:39, "Franz-Josef Behr"<franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Dear Barend,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> to be on the safe side: I suggest 24 hours, there might be issues with
>> >> >>> the resolution of images and things like that.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> What do you think? Can you update your offer?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Am 19.04.2017 um 14:34 schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl <mailto:schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl>:
>> >> >>> > Hi Franz-Josef,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I don't see too much problems (other then that it is actually a list of 10 papers, not 9 ;-)
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Do I understand correctly that the papers should/could be published as is, that is I only need to copy-edit these into LaTeX and publish a OSGEO Journal volume in PDF...?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > If the academic chairs provide me with all the texts and graphics, and also a small introduction or editiorial, I would assume the 130 pages or so would take me maybe 2 full days to process. So let's say 16 hours à €50 is €800,-
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Does that sound reasonable?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>> > Barend Köbben
>> >> >>> > Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
>> >> >>> > PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
>> >> >>> > ITC Building (room 1-065)
>> >> >>> > @barendkobben
>> >> >>> > +31-(0)53 4874 253
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On 18/04/2017, 21:45, "Franz-Josef Behr"<franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Dear Barend,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > find attached the list of 9 papers
>> >> >>> > (FOSS4G2016_Submitted_Papers_2017_04_18_FJB_SV_TTV_CW_for_OSGeo.xlsx).
>> >> >>> > You can see the number of pages in the sheet "for OSGeo Journal".
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I also attach some papers (not all), just to give you an idea. Please
>> >> >>> > note that author's nhame are not yet included.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I hope this is sufficient for a cost estimation.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Best regards - Franz-Josef
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Am 12.04.2017 um 09:20 schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl <mailto:schriebb.j.kobben at utwente.nl>:
>> >> >>> > > Hi Franz-Josef,
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > I have no idea about the amount of work, because I was not involved earlier I do not know:
>> >> >>> > > - how many papers were accepted
>> >> >>> > > - how large these papers are
>> >> >>> > > - how they were originally sent in (file-format, was a template used, separate images in high quality?)
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > With that info (or even better, if you send me the paper originals) I could make an estimate of the amount of hours...
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > yours,
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Am 12.04.2017 um 07:15 schrieb Venka:
>> >> >>> Hi Fraz-Josef,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Sorry, I seem to have missed your earlier mail
>> >> >>> regarding this matter.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I will need to take this up with the board.
>> >> >>> Can you give an idea of the amount that you
>> >> >>> request for copyediting and layouting of
>> >> >>> papers for the journal issue?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Venka
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 2017/04/12 13:41, Franz-Josef Behr wrote:
>> >> >>>> Dear Venkatesh,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> this is a gentle reminder upon my request for some financial support
>> >> >>>> from the board for the publication of the academic papers of FOSS4G
>> >> >>>> 2016.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Any decision yet?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Am 29.03.2017 um 22:36 schrieb Franz-Josef Behr:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Dear Venkatesh,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> one of my unfulfiled duties is the publication of several papers
>> >> >>>>> submitted and accepted in the academic track of FOSS46 2016.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Eli suggests that some experienced people should do the copyediting
>> >> >>>>> and layout for these papers to publish a new issue of our OSGeo
>> >> >>>>> Journal. Till Adams recommended to contact the OSGeo board if this
>> >> >>>>> work could be financed out of the surplus of the conference held
>> >> >>>>> here in Germany.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Please let us know your opinion or suggestion.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>> >> >>>>> Betreff: Re: [Journal] Feedback: [FOSS4G Proceedings]
>> >> >>>>> Publication of papers of the FOSS4G 2016 Academic Trac
>> >> >>>>> Datum: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 08:13:40 -0800
>> >> >>>>> Von: Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us <mailto:eadam at co.lincoln.or.us>>
>> >> >>>>> Antwort an: eadam at co.lincoln.or.us <mailto:eadam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>> >> >>>>> An: Franz-Josef Behr <franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>>
>> >> >>>>> Kopie (CC): Christian Willmes <c.willmes at uni-koeln.de <mailto:c.willmes at uni-koeln.de>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Hi Franz-Josef,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Editing isn't necessarily done in svn but the source files are put
>> >> >>>>> in svn. Using svn can be especially useful if it is a
>> >> >>>>> collaborative process between multiple people (someone else
>> >> >>>>> assembles and then I copy edit and then they produce output). I
>> >> >>>>> would consider svn a minor detail. Use of svn can also be helpful
>> >> >>>>> for coordinating correct volume number, etc. You can check previous
>> >> >>>>> work, http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_14 <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_14> or
>> >> >>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_13 <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_13> etc.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> *I do suggest paying someone since I've not seen volunteers
>> >> >>>>> successfully completing professional level output in a timely
>> >> >>>>> manner for four or five years. It is a somewhat rare skill too.
>> >> >>>>> *Someone who can professionally assemble multiple articles into a
>> >> >>>>> journal volume. Barend and Gary are two that I know of but you
>> >> >>>>> could certainly find others. Please have whoever it is coordinate
>> >> >>>>> with the conference committee.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I'm happy to help guide you (or someone you hire) through the
>> >> >>>>> process. Also happy to volunteer copy editing.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Best regards, Eli
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2017, Franz-Josef Behr
>> >> >>>>> <franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>
>> >> >>>>> <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Dear Eli,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> thank you for your message and the offered support.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I'd like to understand better the process. Is the editing done
>> >> >>>>> through SVN? Do you suggest to pay somebody (I could ask the
>> >> >>>>> German FOSSGIS) for the editing work?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Best regards - Franz-Josef
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Am 17.02.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Eli Adam:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Hi Franz-Josef,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> To proceed, you need to find someone willing to guest edit an
>> >> >>>>> edition
>> >> >>>>> of the OSGeo Journal and assemble everything. Is there anyone
>> >> >>>>> from
>> >> >>>>> the LOC who might volunteer? Hiring someone (Barend or Gary
>> >> >>>>> Sherman
>> >> >>>>> are the first possibilities I can think of and I don't know if
>> >> >>>>> either
>> >> >>>>> are interested) might be a possibility too.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I'll help with copy editing to check minor details are
>> >> >>>>> consistent
>> >> >>>>> (spelling, page numbers, etc). I can also help get people
>> >> >>>>> access to
>> >> >>>>> svn or add the material for them.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Best regards, Eli
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Christian Willmes
>> >> >>>>> <c.willmes at uni-koeln.de <mailto:c.willmes at uni-koeln.de>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I agreed to help in technical regards, with the OJS
>> >> >>>>> Journal system,
>> >> >>>>> uploading the Papers etc., but I won't help with the LaTeX
>> >> >>>>> editing, I am
>> >> >>>>> not good at this kind of work, checking on formalities
>> >> >>>>> etc...
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Best,
>> >> >>>>> Christian
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Am 16.02.2017 um 21:34 schrieb
>> >> >>>>> franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Kategorie: FOSS4G Proceedings
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Dear colleagues,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> as announced for the Academic Track of FOSS4G 2016,
>> >> >>>>> accepted papers
>> >> >>>>> papers
>> >> >>>>> should be published in the OSGeo Journal.
>> >> >>>>> How can we proceed? Christian Willmes is a little
>> >> >>>>> involved.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Regards
>> >> >>>>> Franz-Josef
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Sent from http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal>
>> >> >>>>> <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal>> by Franz-Josef
>> >> >>>>> Behr.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Site Name: OSGeo.org
>> >> >>>>> Entered Name: Franz-Josef Behr
>> >> >>>>> E-Mail-Adresse: franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>
>> >> >>>>> Referring page: http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal>
>> >> >>>>> <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal <http://www.osgeo.org/feedback/journal>>
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