[Board] Renew mandate to act as admin for GSoC 2018 edition

Mon Jan 8 13:08:29 PST 2018

Thank you for the detailed explanation, it makes perfect sense.
The re-occurence of the committee question probably happens just because 
of the way OSGeo governance model works.

Best,
Angelos

On 01/08/2018 10:19 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
> Angelos, all,
>
> sorry I didn't mean to jump to any conclusions, maybe I was tricked by my
> poor understanding of words, but we really have replied to this committee
> thing in several occasions now, see  for example
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/010739.html and the
> same answer was repeated in other occasion, I also remember one email of
> Helmut citing it. We really don't understand where is the need to frame
> gsoc into a committee. On the contrary, we would like to stress that gsoc
> is NOT a committee. When we call for volunteers we want to be very clear
> that we're not calling to join a committee, as an activity that a volunteer
> carries out at their own pace. Gsoc has a schedule, that depends on google,
> decisions must be tackled instantly, not sitting and voting. Any member of
> the team is entitled to act independently from the others, because
> otherwise if we need consultation for any action, we're over. The team is
> action oriented. The members of the team respond on their own action. We do
> tackle important decisions together, but it doesn't happen as a standard
> modus operandi. And we don't wait that we reach majority for a decision:
> when I have a problem I call for the others and who is available replies.
> Besides, I have been in contact with tens of other organizations
> participating in gsoc and none of them occurred to have formed a committee,
> which in my opinion is an unsolicited overcomplication. If all these
> argument still don't convince you, please just respect our wish to not be a
> committee.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 at 19:55, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Madi,
>>
>> Please let's not rush into conclusions.
>> GSoC has been listed under initiatives:
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2018#OSGeo_Initiatives
>> so there is no catch there, you can allocate the budget without any
>> problems.
>>
>> Best,
>> Angelos
>>
>> On 01/08/2018 08:35 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
>>> Jody,
>>>
>>> Il giorno lun 8 gen 2018 alle 18:40 Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>>>
>>> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Started the electronic voting here:
>>>> https://www.loomio.org/d/YPeGSkyx/gsoc-2018-participatio
>>>> <https://www.loomio.org/d/YPeGSkyx/gsoc-2018-participation>n
>>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>> I during our 2018 budget we talked about setting this up as a committee
>>>> with a slightly more general mandate.
>>>>
>>> Honestly, I don’t get this. This idea of forming a committee seems to
>>> return again and again when we have clearly stated that we are no
>> committee
>>> and don’t intend to form one, thanks but no thanks.
>>>
>>> The net result was marking $3000 for the activity, and action item to
>> reach
>>>> out to this years volunteers.
>>>>
>>> So if I understand correctly, we cannot be granted this budget as an
>>> initiative but we must form a committe? Is this what the board decided
>>> during the last meeting? Sorry if I hadn’t understood that. I’m glad that
>>> we didn’t allocate these money yet, because at this condition we don’t
>> wish
>>> to proceed.
>>> So please let us know if we can prceed at least for gsoc application
>>> without being a committee, as was done for 11 years now, or else if you
>>> wish gsoc for OSGeo ends this year.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>
>>>> On 8 January 2018 at 06:36, Margherita Di Leo <diregola at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Great! Please let me know if you need any additional info from our side
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We can make an electronic motivation to sort this out ahead of
>> deadline.
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:25 AM Margherita Di Leo <diregola at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's great, thank you Angelos. Hope the board doesn't mind if for
>>>>>>> practical reasons we are going ahead with the organization and
>> eventually
>>>>>>> the submission of the application which is due by Jan 23. Keeping in
>> mind
>>>>>>> that in the event of negative answer by the board, we can still
>> withdraw it
>>>>>>> by that date.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Angelos Tzotsos <
>> gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear Margherita,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for the update.
>>>>>>>> The next Board meeting is on Jan 17, I have added your request on
>> the
>>>>>>>> agenda:
>>>>>>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-01-17
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2018 12:14 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear members of the Board,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GSoC 2018 has already opened the applications for open source
>> organizations
>>>>>>>> [1]. The timing this year makes things a bit hectic because as
>> organization
>>>>>>>> we are still focussed on GCI contest, which, by the way, is so far
>> a great
>>>>>>>> success! However, thanks for the great commitment of the members of
>> the
>>>>>>>> admin team and our mentors, we are still able to make shifts and
>> work on
>>>>>>>> the application for GSoC at the same time.
>>>>>>>> So we are writing to the Board to update you about the composition
>> of the
>>>>>>>> admin team for 2018 edition and to formally receive mandate to act
>> on
>>>>>>>> behalf of OSGeo, applying for GSoC 2018. The members of the admin
>> team for
>>>>>>>> 2018 are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Florin-Daniel Cioloboc,
>>>>>>>> Werner Macho,
>>>>>>>> Helmut Kudrnovsky,
>>>>>>>> Jeff McKenna,
>>>>>>>> Margherita Di Leo,
>>>>>>>> Anne Ghisla  (as emeritus - will offer guidance and advise in case
>> of need)
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
>>>>>>>> Charter Member
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>>>>>>> Margherita Di Leo
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Margherita Di Leo
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Margherita Di Leo
>>>
>> --
>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
>> Charter Member
>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>
>>

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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos