[Board] separate discussion on the value of video archiving

[Jeff McKenna]

Thanks for kicking this into action Astrid.  I also would like to not 
use the word 'volunteers' here, as the recording, processing, and 
archiving is so important to each FOSS4G event now, that the OSGeo Board 
can contribute funds to help maintain this (just as the Board can do for 
an OSGeo website maintenance team).  These are core activities and 
funding can be set in place to help make this happen (whether now or in 
the the 2019 foundation budget - of course I already anticipate the 
reaction email saying not in budget etc).  Let's gather a team, try to 
get some funding, and make it happen.  -jeff



On 2018-06-20 12:45 PM, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> we talked about the big value of video streaming and archiving at the 
> video meeting in December
> 
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-12-23
> 
> See
> 
> FOSS4G ($30k): Discussion of video requests from Michael Turner
>      is this reasonable?
>      can we take this responsibility from LOC? Like with travel grants 
> we could maintain knowlege/procedure across events...
>      is this something the conference committee would be willing to do?
>      please add to "foss4g cookbook"
>      astird: would like to see videos, livestream included - how can we 
> support?
>      action: Astrid may look at setting up a technical team to be 
> available to LOC
>      support a technical committee to support video recording for 
> Conference LOCs - Astrid POC
>      discussion on supporting a long term active, michael is in favour 
> of OSGeo supporting this.
> 
> One of my todos was to work on a OSGeo video team.
> 
> The Wiki page is already there
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Video_Committee
> 
> I am in contact with Vasile and would like to work on this for FOSS4G 
> 2019. I started discussing with Michael Terner and Guido Stein.
> 
> I also talked to TIB Bastian Drees, people from c3voc and Johan (about 
> the FOSDEM solution)
> 
> But due to other issues I did not promote all this in public yet.
> 
> I just created a todo-ticket: 
> https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeo/todo/issues/18
> 
> So everyone who would like to get involved is welcome. maybe we can talk 
> about it at the next conferences.
> 
> Astrid
> 
> 
> Am 20.06.2018 10:59 schrieb Peter Löwe:
>> Jody, all,
>>
>> just a few thoughts about the potential of video archiving in general
>> and what TIB Hannover (german national library for science & tech,
>> strategic OSGeo partner for video archiving) can enable the community
>> to achieve.
>>
>> Over the last years, OSGeo hast established workflows to record and
>> archive conference presentations. A few minor glitches (-> loss of
>> some vids following FOSS4G Portland ) made clear that it makes sense
>> to work with a partner who's professional about video archiving.
>> That's where TIB comes in. As a national infrastructure they have a
>> clear mandate (and budget!) to collect geoinformatics-related content,
>> currently in English and German.
>>
>> I want to emphasize that TIB does much more in the background than
>> just providing a long term dumping place for OSGeo-related videos. For
>> starters, each video receives a Digital Object Identifier (DOI), which
>> serves as an *unbreakbale* web link, which allows to link to and cite
>> the video for many years to come (e.g.:
>> https://doi.org/10.5446/20420). This is very useful as it allows 1.)
>> scientific citation: OSGeo videos can be cited by scientists just like
>> they cite an article in a scientific journal (which is also done by a
>> DOI) (just throw the DOI of a particular OSgeo video into the Datacite
>> search engine and it will generate proper citations in a variety of
>> established standards like Harvard, IEEE, BibTex, etc. eg:
>> https://search.datacite.org/works?query=10.5446%2F20420 ), 2.) the
>> capability to reference just sections from a lengthy video (like, when
>> the presenting person says something important. eg:
>> https://doi.org/10.5446/20420#t=21:59,22:03). 3.) For the OSGeo
>> members who work in science (or are still stundents), this allows them
>> to receive scientific merit for presentations, since all
>> DOI-referenced material becomes part of the scientific track record
>> (-> and can be linked to a particular person by an ORCID ID:
>> https://orcid.org/ or DataCite (e.g.:
>> https://search.datacite.org/works?query=Jody+garnett)).
>>
>> So all this infrastructure is already in place and can be used to
>> access, cite and reuse OSGeo-related video content.
>>
>> FWIW, a next step for OSGeo could be to adopt DOI-links also to
>> reference software, both on the scale of OSGeo projects, but also for
>> individual functionalities, like a particular module within GRASS,
>> GIS, etc. This would allow to give scientific merit (by citation) to
>> the code devlopers and maintainers. This will require a different
>> discussion.
>>
>> When a conference video is uploaded to TIB, it is not published right
>> away: TIB applies voice-to-text conversion and OCR to automatically
>> create a lot of additonal metadata (in additon to
>> publisher/conference, recording date, speaker, conference title,
>> presentation title, etc.). The potential value of this feature remains
>> to be explored by OSGeo together with TIB.
>>
>> What I noticed at FOSS4G conferences is, that speakers really make an
>> effort to cram as much interesting, funny and visionary content into
>> their presentations, which usually does not reflect the abstract
>> texts. Also, presentations touch on different levels of technology or
>> different topics. It is not unusual to have a presentation which talks
>> about advanced server sided OGC services, geological data volumes and
>> an particular region of interest. With standard meta data it would be
>> next to impossible search the trove of OSGeo videos for vague queries
>> like "give me all videos which mention the geology of Berlin", "give
>> me all videos which make references to the movie Wargames, Star Trek
>> or Amy Winehouse songs" (all this can be found in the video archives
>> !), etc. The advanced search capabilities by TIB will enable just
>> that, but OSGeo needs to become an active sparring partner for TIB to
>> push forward with these developing technologies and services. It would
>> be interesting to consider a joint research programme / research
>> project with them, but I am not sure how to wing this. Ideas, anyone ?
>>
>> best,
>> Peter
>>
>>