[Board] separate discussion on the value of video archiving

Wed Jun 20 12:54:46 PDT 2018

If you can gather a team OSGeo can help with funding, and budget can be
amended as opportunities present themselves.

It is the gathering the team part that is important, a video committee
sounds great :)
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:55 AM Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for kicking this into action Astrid.  I also would like to not
> use the word 'volunteers' here, as the recording, processing, and
> archiving is so important to each FOSS4G event now, that the OSGeo Board
> can contribute funds to help maintain this (just as the Board can do for
> an OSGeo website maintenance team).  These are core activities and
> funding can be set in place to help make this happen (whether now or in
> the the 2019 foundation budget - of course I already anticipate the
> reaction email saying not in budget etc).  Let's gather a team, try to
> get some funding, and make it happen.  -jeff
>
>
>
> On 2018-06-20 12:45 PM, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > we talked about the big value of video streaming and archiving at the
> > video meeting in December
> >
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-12-23
> >
> > See
> >
> > FOSS4G ($30k): Discussion of video requests from Michael Turner
> >      is this reasonable?
> >      can we take this responsibility from LOC? Like with travel grants
> > we could maintain knowlege/procedure across events...
> >      is this something the conference committee would be willing to do?
> >      please add to "foss4g cookbook"
> >      astird: would like to see videos, livestream included - how can we
> > support?
> >      action: Astrid may look at setting up a technical team to be
> > available to LOC
> >      support a technical committee to support video recording for
> > Conference LOCs - Astrid POC
> >      discussion on supporting a long term active, michael is in favour
> > of OSGeo supporting this.
> >
> > One of my todos was to work on a OSGeo video team.
> >
> > The Wiki page is already there
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Video_Committee
> >
> > I am in contact with Vasile and would like to work on this for FOSS4G
> > 2019. I started discussing with Michael Terner and Guido Stein.
> >
> > I also talked to TIB Bastian Drees, people from c3voc and Johan (about
> > the FOSDEM solution)
> >
> > But due to other issues I did not promote all this in public yet.
> >
> > I just created a todo-ticket:
> > https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeo/todo/issues/18
> >
> > So everyone who would like to get involved is welcome. maybe we can talk
> > about it at the next conferences.
> >
> > Astrid
> >
> >
> > Am 20.06.2018 10:59 schrieb Peter Löwe:
> >> Jody, all,
> >>
> >> just a few thoughts about the potential of video archiving in general
> >> and what TIB Hannover (german national library for science & tech,
> >> strategic OSGeo partner for video archiving) can enable the community
> >> to achieve.
> >>
> >> Over the last years, OSGeo hast established workflows to record and
> >> archive conference presentations. A few minor glitches (-> loss of
> >> some vids following FOSS4G Portland ) made clear that it makes sense
> >> to work with a partner who's professional about video archiving.
> >> That's where TIB comes in. As a national infrastructure they have a
> >> clear mandate (and budget!) to collect geoinformatics-related content,
> >> currently in English and German.
> >>
> >> I want to emphasize that TIB does much more in the background than
> >> just providing a long term dumping place for OSGeo-related videos. For
> >> starters, each video receives a Digital Object Identifier (DOI), which
> >> serves as an *unbreakbale* web link, which allows to link to and cite
> >> the video for many years to come (e.g.:
> >> https://doi.org/10.5446/20420). This is very useful as it allows 1.)
> >> scientific citation: OSGeo videos can be cited by scientists just like
> >> they cite an article in a scientific journal (which is also done by a
> >> DOI) (just throw the DOI of a particular OSgeo video into the Datacite
> >> search engine and it will generate proper citations in a variety of
> >> established standards like Harvard, IEEE, BibTex, etc. eg:
> >> https://search.datacite.org/works?query=10.5446%2F20420 ), 2.) the
> >> capability to reference just sections from a lengthy video (like, when
> >> the presenting person says something important. eg:
> >> https://doi.org/10.5446/20420#t=21:59,22:03). 3.) For the OSGeo
> >> members who work in science (or are still stundents), this allows them
> >> to receive scientific merit for presentations, since all
> >> DOI-referenced material becomes part of the scientific track record
> >> (-> and can be linked to a particular person by an ORCID ID:
> >> https://orcid.org/ or DataCite (e.g.:
> >> https://search.datacite.org/works?query=Jody+garnett)).
> >>
> >> So all this infrastructure is already in place and can be used to
> >> access, cite and reuse OSGeo-related video content.
> >>
> >> FWIW, a next step for OSGeo could be to adopt DOI-links also to
> >> reference software, both on the scale of OSGeo projects, but also for
> >> individual functionalities, like a particular module within GRASS,
> >> GIS, etc. This would allow to give scientific merit (by citation) to
> >> the code devlopers and maintainers. This will require a different
> >> discussion.
> >>
> >> When a conference video is uploaded to TIB, it is not published right
> >> away: TIB applies voice-to-text conversion and OCR to automatically
> >> create a lot of additonal metadata (in additon to
> >> publisher/conference, recording date, speaker, conference title,
> >> presentation title, etc.). The potential value of this feature remains
> >> to be explored by OSGeo together with TIB.
> >>
> >> What I noticed at FOSS4G conferences is, that speakers really make an
> >> effort to cram as much interesting, funny and visionary content into
> >> their presentations, which usually does not reflect the abstract
> >> texts. Also, presentations touch on different levels of technology or
> >> different topics. It is not unusual to have a presentation which talks
> >> about advanced server sided OGC services, geological data volumes and
> >> an particular region of interest. With standard meta data it would be
> >> next to impossible search the trove of OSGeo videos for vague queries
> >> like "give me all videos which mention the geology of Berlin", "give
> >> me all videos which make references to the movie Wargames, Star Trek
> >> or Amy Winehouse songs" (all this can be found in the video archives
> >> !), etc. The advanced search capabilities by TIB will enable just
> >> that, but OSGeo needs to become an active sparring partner for TIB to
> >> push forward with these developing technologies and services. It would
> >> be interesting to consider a joint research programme / research
> >> project with them, but I am not sure how to wing this. Ideas, anyone ?
> >>
> >> best,
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
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