[Board] NSF National GeoTech Center Partnership with Geo for All
Cheung, Wing
wcheung at palomar.edu
Sat May 25 10:35:14 PDT 2019
Thank you Helena and Jody. These are great questions. I do not think ii, iii will be a problem, but I cannot speak to i and iv since I am not a part of Jefferson Community and Technical College. So I will defer those questions to the PI of the GeoTech Center and a Professor at Jefferson Community and Technical College.
Vince, can you please review the following suggestions, and comment on whether they are realistic for the GeoTech Center and JCTC?
GeoTech Center will promote contribution to geospatial open source projects
• i. Direct participation in the development and documentation of OSGeo projects
• ii. Positive and productive participation in project email list and communication channels
• iii. Use of the project issue tracker and public support channels
• iv. Adopt an open source participation policy enabling students and staff to work on shared intellectual property.
Thank you,
Wing
From: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 9:21 PM
To: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu>
Cc: Cheung, Wing <wcheung at palomar.edu>; osgeo-board List <board at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: NSF National GeoTech Center Partnership with Geo for All
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If it helps some of our OSGeo projects use contributor license agreements here:
https://www.osgeo.org/about/licenses/
We are looking for more then promotion, we want to ensure Jefferson Community and Technical College has an open source policy allowing staff and students to contribute. Some universities look to patent ideas developed through their research program - and do not allow participation in open source (or are careful to only approve participation in projects that use a license does not include a patent use clause).
Please forgive the hardline on this topic, I don’t like to see unequal relationships established. You are of course welcome to use open source software without having thought through these questions. But we would be doing you a disservice if we did not ensure you are setup to take part. It would be like inviting you in from the cold, and not serving you tea.
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 9:09 PM Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu<mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>> wrote:
Wing,
thank you for your response to the notes in board meeting minutes.
We will have a board meeting on Monday so we can vote on the MoU, however, currently we have two versions:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_GeoTech
Version 1 includes some comments and suggestions from a board member
Version 2 is your edited version.
For Version 1 it would be useful if you could comment on how / whether the proposed section below
applies or is realistic for your organization
GeoTech Center will promote contribution to geospatial open source projects
• i. Direct participation in the development and documentation of OSGeo projects
• ii. Positive and productive participation in project email list and communication channels
• iii. Use of the project issue tracker and public support channels
• iv. Adopt an open source participation policy enabling students and staff to work on shared intellectual property.
Thank you, Helena
> On May 12, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Cheung, Wing <wcheung at palomar.edu<mailto:wcheung at palomar.edu>> wrote:
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> Hi Helena,
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> I noted the following items from the minutes of the last OSGeo Meeting:
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> Discuss MoU with Geotech
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> · https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_GeoTech
> · "with reduced or waived registration fees" <-- is this an obligation we are taking on with an expectation that foss4g events will offer a discount to GeoTech as a partner?
> · If an MOU does not mention a partner participating in open source then we need to negotiate
> · Also we would like to clarify the reduced fees
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> • We can take out the language about reduced or waived registration fee.
> • I am not exactly sure what “a partner participating in open source” means. The GeoTech Center’s member institutions (e.g. Palomar College, California University of Pennsylvania) currently teach Open Source GIS (e.g. QGIS, GeoServer) in their GIS Program Curriculum.
> The GeoTech Center has also hosted QGIS workshops in its annual conference (i.e. GeoEd). Here is an example from last year’s conference: http://www.geotechcenter.org/geoed-18.html . I think this is an example of “GeoTech Center will promote OSGeo resources on their website and encourage its partner institutions to become a GeoForAll lab or submit OSGeo lab materials to GeoForAll.”
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> Below is the updated MOU based on my responses above:
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> The purpose of this Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) is to establish a collaborative relationship between the Open Source Geospatial enhancing geoeducation opportunities and preparing students for the geospatial workforce.
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> GeoForAll is the OSGeo’s initiative for educational outreach, and it seeks to make geospatial education opportunities accessible to all.
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> The GeoTech Center is a unit of Jefferson Community and Technical College and receives funding from the National Science Foundation's workshops, webinars, a syllabus repository, and the Geospatial Technology Competency Model (GTCM).
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> OSGeo (through its Geoforall initiative) and GeoTech Center agree to cooperate in the following activities, which are to their mutual benefit:
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> · GeoTech Center and GeoForAll will collaborate to identify opportunities for student and faculty travel support to OSGeo and GeoTech Center events, and encourage 2-year college students and faculty to contribute to the events as volunteers, presenters, or participants.
> · GeoTech Center and GeoForAll will explore opportunities for supporting student competitions or internship opportunities within the OSGeo ecosystem.
> · GeoTech Center will promote OSGeo resources on their website and encourage its partner institutions to become a GeoForAll lab or submit OSGeo lab materials to GeoForAll.
> · GeoTech Center will advertise OSGeo events to its partner institutions through its quarterly newsletter, webinars, and annual conference (GeoEd).
> · GeoForAll will highlight and promote the GeoTech Center’s events and resources in its newsletters and website.
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> Please let me know if the board has any other questions or comments. I appreciate your assistance!
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> Thank you,
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> From: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu<mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 8:20 AM
> To: Cheung, Wing <wcheung at palomar.edu<mailto:wcheung at palomar.edu>>
> Subject: Re: NSF National GeoTech Center Partnership with Geo for All
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> Wing,
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> Can you please provide a link to the GeoTech center?
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> The discussion is whether this should be MoU or the GeoTech should join GeoForAll network as a “lab” (lab can be a small lab or entire “partner”.
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> The MoUs are usually with large professional organizations such as ICA or ISPRS although we have smaller organizations such as UCGIS.
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> On Apr 26, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Cheung, Wing <wcheung at palomar.edu<mailto:wcheung at palomar.edu>> wrote:
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> Hi Helena,
> I want to follow up on the draft MOU between OSGeo and the GeoTech Center. Please let me know if the board has any concerns or questions.
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> Thank you!
> Wing
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cheung, Wing
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:52 AM
> To: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu<mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>; Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu>>
> Subject: RE: NSF National GeoTech Center Partnership with Geo for All
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> Hi Helena,
> Thank you again for creating the wiki page. I just received some edits from the GeoTech Center Director. Will you please copy and paste the following version of the draft MOU to the wiki ? As far as I can tell, I think he mainly just added details about the GeoTech Center.
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> Thank you,
> Wing
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> MOU Between GeoForAll and the National GeoTech Center
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> The purpose of this Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) is to establish a collaborative relationship between the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) and the National Geospatial Technology Center of Excellence (GeoTech Center) a unit of Jefferson Community and Technical College. Both parties to this MOU share the goal of enhancing geoeducation opportunities and preparing students for the geospatial workforce.
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> GeoForAll is the OSGeo's initiative for educational outreach, and it seeks to make geospatial education opportunities accessible to all.
> The GeoTech Center is a unit of Jefferson Community and Technical College and receives funding from the National Science Foundation's Advanced Technological Education Program that promotes technician education primarily at the two-year college level by supporting educators with workshops, webinars, a syllabus repository, and the Geospatial Technology Competency Model (GTCM).
> OSGeo (through its GeoForAll initiative) and GeoTech Center agree to cooperate in the following activities, which are to their mutual benefit:
> * GeoTech Center and GeoForAll will collaborate to identify opportunities for student and faculty travel support to OSGeo and GeoTech Center events, and encourage two-year college students and faculty to contribute to the events as volunteers, presenters, or participants with reduced or waived registration fees.
> * GeoTech Center and GeoForAll will explore opportunities for supporting student competitions or internship opportunities within the OSGeo ecosystem.
> * GeoTech Center will promote OSGeo resources on their website and encourage its partner institutions to become a GeoForAll lab or submit OSGeo lab materials to GeoForAll.
> * GeoTech Center will advertise OSGeo events to its partner institutions through its quarterly newsletter, webinars, and annual conference (GeoEd).
> * GeoForAll will highlight and promote the GeoTech Center's events and resources in its newsletters and website.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu<mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 5:36 PM
> To: Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu>>; Cheung, Wing <wcheung at palomar.edu<mailto:wcheung at palomar.edu>>
> Subject: Re: NSF National GeoTech Center Partnership with Geo for All
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> I added the MoU as in preparation here
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> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_OSGeo_All
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> and created related wiki page to get the process started
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> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_GeoTech
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> I will put it on agenda for the OSGeo board for a discussion, there may be some modifications or additions suggested, based on past experience,
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> thank you for working on this initiative,
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> Helena
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> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:33 PM, Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu>> wrote:
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> Yes absolutely. The International FOSS4G will be back in USA in 2020 or 2021 so excellent time for that. I do hope you and Ken and colleagues will attend the Dago gig in April. I'm putting together Academic track.
> From: Cheung, Wing <wcheung at palomar.edu<mailto:wcheung at palomar.edu>>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:25 PM
> To: Helena Mitasova; Phillip Davis
> Subject: NSF National GeoTech Center Partnership with Geo for All
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> Hi Phil and Helena,
> I finally had a chance to discuss potential partnership opportunities between GeoForAll and the GeoTech Center with the Center's
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> this year, since the GeoTech Center did not play a significant role in the development of this year's conference, so it will not be considered a GeoTech activity that we can support with the Center's NSF funds. However, we do hope to explore travel support with GeoForAll for future events, especially in events that are co-hosted or co-developed between our organizations. I have drafted an MOU by modifying GeoForAll's recent MOU with YouthMapper (see below), can you
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> Thank you,
> Wing
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> Wing Cheung PhD, GISP
> Professor of Geography and GIS,
> Department Chair of Earth, Space and Environmental Sciences, Principal Investigator of UAS Technician Education Program (NSF DUE#1700552), Assistant Director of National GeoTech Center of Excellence (NSF DUE#1700496), Palomar College, San Marcos, CA 92069
> (760)744-1150 ext.3652
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> Draft MOU Between GeoForAll and the National GeoTech Center
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> The purpose of this Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) is to establish a collaborative relationship between the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) and the National Geospatial Technology Center of Excellence (GeoTech Center). Both parties to this MOU share the goal of enhancing geoeducation opportunities and preparing students for the geospatial workforce.
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> GeoForAll is the OSGeo's committee for educational outreach, and it seeks to make geospatial education opportunities accessible to all.
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> The GeoTech Center is a not-for-profit national center for geospatial education created by the National Science Foundation's Advanced Technological Education Program that promotes education at the two-year college level by supporting educators with workshops, webinars, a syllabus repository, and the Geospatial Technology Competency Model (GTCM).
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> GeoForAll and GeoTech Center agree to cooperate in the following activities, which are to their mutual benefit:
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> GeoTech Center and GeoForAll will collaborate to identify opportunities for student and faculty travel support to OSGeo and GeoTech Center events, and encourage 2-year college students and faculty to contribute to the events as volunteers, presenters, or participants with reduced or waived registration fees.
> GeoTech Center and GeoForAll will explore opportunities for supporting student competitions or internship opportunities within the OSGeo ecosystem.
> GeoTech Center will promote OSGeo resources on their website and encourage its partner institutions to become a GeoForAll lab or submit OSGeo lab materials to GeoForAll.
> GeoTech Center will advertise OSGeo events to its partner institutions through its quarterly newsletter, webinars, and annual conference (GeoEd).
> GeoForAll will highlight and promote the GeoTech Center's events and resources in its newsletters and website.
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> From: Cheung, Wing
> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 12:16 AM
> To: Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu>>; Kurt Menke <kurt at birdseyeviewgis.com<mailto:kurt at birdseyeviewgis.com>>
> Cc: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu<mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>
> Subject: RE: FW: Partnering with Geo for All?
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> That's great news! Thank you Phil. I have already emailed the GeoTech PI and Co-PIs yesterday about the MOU. I believe the PI and some of the Co-PIs are currently at a conference, so it may take a few days before I hear back. I will try to connect all of us once I have some updates.
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> Thank you,
> Wing
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> From: Phillip Davis <pdavis at delmar.edu<mailto:pdavis at delmar.edu>>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:02 PM
> To: Kurt Menke <kurt at birdseyeviewgis.com<mailto:kurt at birdseyeviewgis.com>>; Cheung, Wing <wcheung at palomar.edu<mailto:wcheung at palomar.edu>>
> Cc: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu<mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>
> Subject: Re: FW: Partnering with Geo for All?
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> So just notified my talk for FOSS4GNA accepted. What great place to announce GeoTech support and offerings. Hope to promote new partner widely once it happens.
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> Respect
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> Phillip
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> Helena Mitasova
> Professor at the Department of Marine,
> Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
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Helena Mitasova
Professor at the Department of Marine,
Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
Associate director and faculty fellow at the Center for Geospatial Analytics
North Carolina State University
Raleigh, NC 27695-8208
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