[Carto] Map specifications

[George Silva]

I agree with GIS being a source for many bad maps, but also a source for
some good maps.

Cartography is a intricate part of GIS that has many variables as desires of
the user, so it is really hard to cover all basis with a software.

The main idea, I guess, is to make map documents more interoperable, without
the need to rebuild them all in *n* softwares.

As Carlos said, Cartography itself sees the world in a different way than
GIS.

What are the major changes that we have in this model? Identifying this
would be great and would help us to write a better framework.

George

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Carlos Gabriel Asato <g_asato2000 at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> Dear Laurent
>
> In an old previous discussion there are a material about media output
> specification, please give us your impression about what we said.
>
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/carto/2009-August/000009.html
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/carto/2009-August/000010.html
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/carto/2009-August/000011.html
>
> I am also agreed that GIS usually makes bad maps but I think at this level
> of discussion this group is working on a "landscape model oriented
> cartographic program" that means a program that create cartography directly
> from the landscape (geographic) data model (database). Please review the
> overview diagram at:
>
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/carto/2009-April/date.html
>
> I know that european cartographers are trying to develop the architectural
> concepts about a real cartographic application but if this group will
> develop this system with open and readable structures, I think will be
> possible to developed something that agreed much better with cartographer
> expectation on top of  this system. Unfortunately, I think, concepts around
> how to jump from landscape model cartography to real cartographic systems
> are not complete mature (may be you know any other papers or developments
> about this matter). The best operational work I 've seen is this matter was
> made by a french person (old owner of a cartographic french company now
> bought by ESRI) who was in  Argentina about 5 years ago. I do not remeber
> his name but is one of the authors of this work:
> http://ica.ign.fr/Leicester/paper/Hardy-v2-ICAWorkshop.pdf
>
> I hope this information will help you
>
> My best regards
>
> Gabriel Asato
> Unidad Sensores Remotos y SIG
> Servicio Geológico Minero Argentino
> (SEGEMAR)
> Av. Julio A. Roca 651 p 8 of 1
> Cdad. Autónoma de Buenos Aires
> ARGENTINA
>
> tel 54-11-4349-3158/26
> fax 54-11-4349-3287
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De:* Laurent Jégou <jegou at univ-tlse2.fr>
> *Para:* George Silva <georger.silva at gmail.com>
> *CC:* carto at lists.osgeo.org
> *Enviado:* viernes, 9 de abril, 2010 3:44:19
> *Asunto:* Re: [Carto] Map specifications
>
> Hello all, i may be a little out of focus or range, but i'd like to
> emphasize a point. My work as a cartographer is mostly spent on drawing
> software like Illustrator (or Inkscape), and i could not forget to speak
> here about question of the the final media for the map being designed.
>
> The media dictates the style of the elements composing the map, and that
> question raises two practical problems :
>
> - the type of the media : screen / paper (so RGB of CYMK ?)
>
> - the size of the media : physical size and resolution (screen, printer,
> diffusion media).
>
> My point is that the final media occasions significant variations of the
> styling of the elements. So many ugly maps are automatically produced by GIS
> software not taking into account that the media will be CYMK and 300 dpi
> (colors not distinguishable, line too thin or aliased, etc.)
>
> With html pages the problem is incompletely treated by css variants and
> proportional units (em). But if we want quality PDF output, thats important.
> The debate on "what's can be called a map" is (re-)emerging here in France,
> with the temptation to kick out of the definition the "simple" maps produced
> by GIS or analytical softwares.
>
> Regards and thanks for the display of motivation :-)
>
> Laurent
>
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George R. C. Silva

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